Phantom index entries

Thu Aug 3 10:56:54 PDT 2006

I'll second this one. I've spent literally hours pulling my hair out about 
"phantom" index entries, only to find that there were multiple, "invisible" 
index markers that were stacked one atop the other. I'd remove one, only to 
find there was another one there. And once you think you've got them all, 
sometimes you have to go back and remove even more. It's crazy making, but I 
did finally get my index to work.
Karyn

From: "Stamm, David-P45904" <Dave.Stamm at gdc4s.com>
To: "Murray Moore" <m.moore at csdcsystems.com>,<framers at lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: RE: Phantom index entries
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 13:45:54 -0400
>2006-08-03-04T17:45Z
>
>Murray -
>
>I just saw Frank Stearns' posting as I was finishing my missive, below.
>I agree with Frank's projection about what I refer to as "LAN
>interference," "network collisions," and "network congestion." I've
>seen FrameMaker do some mighty-odd things here that, apparently, our
>colleagues don't experience. At least, they don't discuss such
>intermittent, oddball behaviors on this list.
>
>Believe you me: "I feel your pain."
>
>I recently relearned that FrameMaker sometimes stacks markers one on top
>of the other. The only thing visible is one marker, but there might be
>more than one marker at the same place. I have found six markers
>stacked atop one another on the reference page named "BookHTML."
>
>I think you might find an "Index" marker that contains an entry such as
>" 16" or " 18" or " 24" - without the quotation marks. Notice that each
>number is preceded by at least one blank ( " " ). I believe that in
>such a situation, FrameMaker detects the blank or blanks, recognizes it
>or them as "symbols," and quite happily sorts the contents to
>appear as you have reported them.
>
>Try this.
>
>1. By whatever means, go to the marker that you believe is the
>offender. The marker appears highlighted. Remember that the marker
>might be very hard to see. It might be at the very end of a bit of text
>that is next to a text frame or a line in a table.
>
>2. If necessary or desired, zoom in on the file until you can see the
>marker that is highlighted. The marker becomes more-readily visible.
>
>3. Press the left arrow key ( <- ) once. The insertion point moves
>to the left. If the marker is at the right side of a letter, the point
>moves to the left side of the letter.
>
>4. Press the right arrow key ( -> ) once. The insertion point moves
>into an "invisible" place between the right side of the letter and the
>left side of the marker. The insertion point remains visible.
>
>5. Press the spacebar once, twice, or thrice. (Hey, you can "go
>crazy" here because you can't really hurt anything, and hitting the
>spacebar is better than biting the edge of your work surface.) One or
>more blanks appear to the left of the marker.
>
>6. Press the right arrow key ( -> ) _only_once_, and press the
>spacebar _only_once_.
>
>7. If this movement produces only one or more blanks - and nothing
>else - you're dealing with only one marker.
>
>8. If this movement produces a blank _and_ another marker begins to
>appear, repeat steps six and seven until no more markers appear.
>
>9. If FrameMaker's "Marker" dialog box is not displayed, display it.
>Press Alt+S+M. The "Marker" dialog box appears.
>
>10. Highlight each marker one-at-a-time and examine both its type
>(such as "Index" or "TopicAlias" or "Author" in the title bar) and its
>contents.
>
>Again, I think you might find an "Index" marker that contains an entry
>such as " 16" or " 18" or " 24" - without the quotation marks. Notice
>that each number is preceded by at least one blank ( " " ). I believe
>that in such a situation, FrameMaker detects the blank or blanks,
>recognizes it or them as "symbols," and quite happily sorts the contents
>to
>appear as you have reported them.
>
>Good luck!
>
>Dave Stamm
>Publications Specialist, Senior Staff
>General Dynamics C4 Systems, Inc.
>Command Systems
>1700 Magnavox Way, Suite 200
>Fort Wayne, Indiana 46804-1552
>US
>tel: 260-434-9620
>fax: 260.434.9601
>dave.stamm at gdc4s.com
>http://www.gdc4s.com/
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: framers-bounces+dave.stamm=gdc4s.com at lists.frameusers.com
>[mailto:framers-bounces+dave.stamm=gdc4s.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
>Behalf Of Murray Moore
>Sent: 2006-08-01-Tuesday 09:55
>To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
>Subject: Phantom index entries
>
>FM 6.0p405
>XP Pro Version 2002 Service Pack 2
>
>In my book's index, page numbers are appearing under the Symbols
>heading; 16, 18, 24, etc.
>
>I traced each of these numbers to its source index marker, e.g. one of
>the page numbers under the Symbols heading, 34, is the A Year Ago This
>Month button heading on page 34.
>
>On page 34 I deleted and recreated the index marker. But when I updated
>the book and the index, 34 continues to display under Symbols.
>
>On page 34 I deleted the index marker. I updated the book and the index.
>Not only does 16 continue to display under Symbols, but A Year Ago This
>Month 34 continues to display under the A heading.
>
>Our IT Dept. head suggested I might have exceeded the maximum size for a
>FM file. I do not think so because I have produced thicker books.
>
>/\/\
>Murray Moore
>Documentation Department
>CSDC Systems Inc.
>Mississauga, Ontario
>
>
>
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