structured import and pgftag fonts

Noah Evans noah.evans at gmail.com
Mon Oct 16 16:44:29 PDT 2006


Hey Steve,

I changed the ini file earlier, but the problem seems to be that no
matter what I do, when I import all of the text fonts are being set by
a blank character format. So even if I set the data to what I want in
the paragraph tag, the blank character format that is inserted during
import overrides it.

What's strange about this is that when I insert the elements directly
through frame and edit them by hand, frame doesn't insert the
character format. It seems to be an issue with the import.

One more thing, I just remembered something regarding the ini file.
Even when I set the default font to Arial, Times New Roman, Tms Rmn in
maker.ini when I check the strings in the executable in memory next to
the string "Default Font" the string Times New Roman, Times New Roman,
Tms Rmn is there instead. Could just be a default defined as a
constant, but no matter what I do, from purging all definitions of
Times from the mif or changing maker.ini it just won't go away during
import.

Noah

On 10/16/06, Steve Cavanaugh <scavanaugh at nat-seattle.com> wrote:
> I caught a clue about FrameMaker's font behavior from
> http://www.techknowledgecorp.com/help/index.html - click on Mass Convert
> Fonts.  I hadn't realized that FrameMaker uses an .ini file (I thought
> ini files went away a LONG time ago) and that in that .ini file there is
> a default font definition that was driving me mad here.  I would convert
> all fonts to Arial, and upon print, the console would tell me it was
> making a substitute for "Times" which I had not defined for anything.
> It turns out, that .ini file had a definition of Times for the variable
> DefaultFamily.
>
>
> Steve Cavanaugh
> Sr. Technical Writer
> NAT Seattle Inc.
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:framers-bounces+scavanaugh=nat-seattle.com at lists.frameusers.com]
> On Behalf Of Noah Evans
> Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 9:25 PM
> To: Rick Quatro
> Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: structured import and pgftag fonts
>
>  Hey Rick, framers,
>
> Rick, thanks for your tip, however in this case it didn't work. Here's
> why:
>
> After looking through the mif and experimenting with different
> formatting in the edd, I've found the problem, but I have no idea why
> it's ending up like this.
>
> Frame seems to be inserting font data on the strings themselves
> --overriding the combined fonts defined by the elements. Does anyone
> have any idea of how I could stop frame from doing this? I can manually
> set the font with a text rule, but frame still nests the combined fonts
> too deeply in the mif, so frame's fonts override them.
>
>  I could write an fdk client to eliminate the font information manually,
> but I'm hoping that someone who knows more than me could offer me some
> ideas as to what's going on and why frame's putting in that font data.
>
> Thanks for everybody's help and input,
>
> Noah
>
>
>
>  On 10/12/06, Rick Quatro  <frameexpert at truevine.net> wrote:
> >   Hi Noah,
> >
> > I am not sure what is causing this by try this after you import the
> XML.
> >
> > 1) Choose File > Import > Element Definitions.
> >
> > 2) Leave Current selected in the Import from Document popup. Check the
>
> > Format Rule Overrides checkbox and click Import.
> >
> > Rick Quatro
> > Carmen Publishing
> > 585-659-8267
> >  www.frameexpert.com
> >
> >
> > > Hey all,
> > >
> > > I'm having a very strange problem with my structure application.
> > > When I import an xml file, none of the fonts follows the paragraph
> > > tags(which are assigned by the edd, they show up just fine in the
> > > pgftag bar and menu, but the fonts just don't apply for some
> > > reason). They seem to be inheriting the font information from the
> > > root element instead.
> > >
> > > However if I just insert an element manually the font follows the
> > > pgftag correctly.
> > >
> > > Does anyone have any idea what could be causing this?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Noah
> > > _______________________________________________
> >
> >
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