Text lines disappearing below bottom of main text flow frame

[Bodvar Bjorgvinsson]

Lester,

Thank you for the suggestions.

This is my first two column big job so far. I have not started
feathering yet, but I found later today a suggestion lurking somewhere
in my old posts (when ordered to delete out of my mail box) a
suggestion that changing the widow/orphan to three lines. They are set
to two lines.

I cannot see that this behavior has any connection to keep with
next/previous unless there are some headings etc. farther down the
file that stopped the flowing. I did not check that. I will certainly
bear that in mind now when I will be going over this again.

As to rehyphenation, this happened when going through hyphenation by
hand. Language being Icelandic, which is unsupported by Adobe, I had
run the Dashes Pro Demo on the RTF files which were then imported to
to FrameMaker 7.2. The Dashes Pro proved to be very inaccurate in
hyphenation, the best thing was to do a find \- and either delete or
keep and some times even add new. And to complicate things further,
the eth and thorn and even an accented y (which are all parts of the
extended ASCII) seem to FrameMaker just as some space character when
it comes to hyphenating.

Thanks again and God bless,

Bodvar

On 8/28/07, Lester C. Smalley <lsmalley at infocon.com> wrote:
> Bodvar -
>
> I haven't run into the specific problem you describe, and I can't offer
> much advice as I work with single-column documents almost exclusively,
> although they do use side heads.
>
> As you are working in a structured document, there may be issues with
> element formatting such as keep with next/previous properties, and
> widow/orphan settings.  And because settings are inherited, it may be
> specified on a higher element in the structure before you actually see a
> problem.
>
> Have you checked and perhaps adjusted the Feathering property (found in
> Format > Page Layout > Line Layout) of the text flow?
>
> Are your footnotes set to be "In Column" or "Across All Columns"? (I
> don't know if this makes a difference or not)
>
> You can try to re-hyphenate the document.  Odd as it seems, this often
> clears up some unusual formatting issues that otherwise don't seem
> solvable.
>
> Good luck!
>
> On Tuesday, August 28, 2007 09:06 AM, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson wrote:
>
> | I found a posting since 2004 about the same thing. This happened when
> | columns were set to balanced. Same here. There was never a reply to
> | this posting.
> |
> | Is this a problem that others have experienced?
> |
> | Bodvar
> |
> | On 8/27/07, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson <bodvar at gmail.com> wrote:
> |
> | > I think this is an oldie, but I cannot find the thread(s) that dealt
> | > with it. And it is Monday and everyone is fresh and rested after a
> | > nice weekend. :-)
> | >
> | > I have on several accounts in the past few weeks come across one of
> | > the weird behaviours of FrameMaker (not so uncommon in other frame
> | > based applications) that one or two text lines hide between the
> bottom
> | > of the page frame (overflow) instead of flowing to the next page.
> | >
> | > A couple of weeks ago I noted a solid line in the bottom of a page
> | > frame and saw that a line was not flowing over to the next page but
> | > kept hidden, even if I printed the file. Since this has happened on
> | > several occasions, and I just cannot find out how to hunt these down
> | > in any other way than to look at the bottom of every page (and these
> | > will be some 800).
> | >
> | > My environment is M$ WinXP, FM 7.2 (structured), and all pages are
> | > two-column setup.
> | >
> | > Another and similar unacceptable behaviour is that sometimes a line
> | > of text overflows to the line above a footnote. I found out that was
> | > even harder to deal with.
> | >
> | > The way I dealt with the page overflow was to insert one or two hard
> | > breaks, forcing the lines over and then deleting the hard brakes.
> That
> | > seemed to work for the page overflow, but not for the text lines
> | > overrunning the footnotes.
> | >
> | > Any help to do away with these bastards in an orderly manner (other
> | > than to wait for FrameMaker 9.6) will be highly appreciated.
> | >
> | > Price: all the virtual pizza you can eat and whatever virtual you
> | > might want to drink! (Even on a Monday!). ;-)
> | >
> | > TBF
> | >
> | > Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
>
> - Lester
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