Frame's lame callouts

[Diane Gaskill]

Adding to what Ann said, ALL text in frames is picked up by the Translators
Workbench and can easily be translated as part of the body text flow.  Free
text winds up at the end of the file.  Although it is translatable, it take
more time and you will be charged for it becasue they have to look at it
separately.  My advice to anyone whose docs have even the remotest chance of
being translated - use text frames for anything that will be translated,
including callouts of course.

I did not see this mentioned so I also wanted to say something about
shortcuts when creating callouts.  Create a callout-sized text frame and tag
the empty paragraph with your callout tag.  Move the frame to the side of he
page.  Then copy and paste the empty frame wherever you need a callout.
Edit the text in each callout.  Much easier and faster than creating a new
text frame and tagging the text every time.

Hope this helps.

Diane Gaskill
Hitachi Data Systems
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-----Original Message-----
From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com]On Behalf Of Ann Zdunczyk
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 2:02 PM
To: framers at frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Frame's lame callouts



Another reason to use Text Frames rather than Graphical Text is if you have
you documents translated this works MUCH better. I have seen do done both
ways and if you use Graphical text the layout person has to remember to see
if the translated text is hidden under the edge of the graphic frame. If you
use the Text Frames then the text wraps with in the frame.

Z

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-----Original Message-----
From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Susan Modlin
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 4:57 PM
To: Rene Stephenson; Fred Ridder; Flato, Gillian; framers at frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Frame's lame callouts

I also use a text frame, but take it one step further with a FrameScript
that inserts a text frame in an anchored frame, sizes it, and sets the
paragraph tag for me.

...Susan

----- Original Message ----
From: Rene Stephenson <rinnie1 at yahoo.com>
To: Fred Ridder <docudoc at hotmail.com>; "Flato, Gillian"
<gflato at nanometrics.com>; framers at frameusers.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 12:11:59 PM
Subject: RE: Frame's lame callouts


My solution for this is creating a paragraph tag (Callouts) and using  the
Text Frame tool to draw a little text box for the callout. Doing  this also
enables us to insert cross-references for callouts, which adds  similar
navigation to graphic hotspots.  ;-)

Rene Stephenson

Fred Ridder <docudoc at hotmail.com> wrote:
Gillian Flato asked (in part):>
> Does anyone know why I can't apply styles to them globally? I have to
> open up the character designer and apply a style to each word
> individually.

Callouts created with the drawing tools cannot be manipulated with named
styles because they are not paragraphs in the text flow. They are lines of
characters in a graphic frame which is entirely separate from the text flow
even though it is surrounded by it.
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