Sequential page numbers on alternate pages

[Fred Ridder]

I'm not sure the situation is as grim as you think. I think the
2-page spread approach gets you most of the way there.

It should be quite easy to prepare English-only or translation-
only versions very by importing the appropriate flow into a
conventional, single-page template. (Remember that the
File>Import>File operation imports on a flow-by-flow basis,
so you can import the two languages into new container
documents separately.)

And if you really need to print a side-by-side version, most
print vendors should be able to handle the imposition required
to produce page signatures from a PDF that contains 2-page
spreads. The one thing you might want to do to make it easier
to verify that the imposition is correct is to number use the
same number but a different language suffix on the left-hand
and right hand pages (e.g. 2-F on the left-nand page and 2-E
on the right-hand, English page) of each 2-page spread.

But I freely admit that I have never had to do this for real...

-Fred Ridder


>From: kevinf at dim.com
>To: framers at frameusers.com
>Subject: Re: Sequential page numbers on alternate pages
>Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 19:01:33 -0600 (MDT)
>
>Hello,
>
>Yes, all good points I came to on my own in the last few days. The
>stickiest part of all of this is any requirement for "special
>impositioning tricks." XPress can manage two flows, one linked by hand, on
>one wide page, and that system will work all right in translation, but the
>pages require tricks to print. At least overriding right/left pages and
>adding page numbers by hand results in standard print files.
>
>Thanks to all those who sent suggestions. It's sounding kind of grim.
>
>Kevin
>
>
> > See my comments below, preceded by >>>>>>>>>>
> >
> > Peter Gold wrote:
> >> This has been asked in various permutations and answered with a variety
> >> of
> >> suggested solutions, on one or another of the FrameMaker forums. A
> >> Google
> >> search for framemaker page numbering, or framemaker custom page
> >> numbering,
> >> should turn up one or more discussions.
> >>
> >> Usually one suggestion is to create a small flow-tagged master-page 
>text
> >> frame on the master for the particular body page, Left, in this case, 
>to
> >> hold page numbers.  Then on the first left body page, tag the paragraph
> >> marker in the text frame with a numbered format that's set to start at
> >> top
> >> of column, and press enter a lot of times to push numbers into all
> >> existing
> >> pages.
> >>
> >  >>>>>>>>>> I wouldn't do this because you can't have references to
> > "real" page numbers, as in cross-references, table of contents and
> > index. Also, you'll need to set up two flows: one for the source
> > language (A) and one for the target language (B). And you can't have
> > flow A on the left master page and B on the right, they will get mixed
> > up when FM adds pages.
> >> On 9/3/07, Shmuel Wolfson <sbw at actcom.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> If you could create a custom variable which calculates ((current page
> >>> number + 1) / 2), that would do the trick. Does anyone know if this is
> >>> possible?
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> Variables don't increment this way.
> >>
> >> If you create Flow A on the left pages and Flow B on the right pages,
> >>
> >>> can they have separate numbering?
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>  No. But, because FM only can have one page number per spread, another
> >> solution is to create a two-page wide layout, and use standard page
> >> numbers
> >> that display only on the "left page." You'd need to create a 
>master-page
> >> text frame for Flow B, with Autoflow property for the "right page."
> >>
> >  >>>>>>>>>> This will work better for the page numbers and references to
> > the page numbers. You may need to try some special impositioning tricks
> > in the PDF file, for example if you want to print a booklet
> > "saddle-stitched."
> >
> >
> > Kind regards
> >
> >
> > --
> > Yves Barbion
> > Documentation Architect
> > Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor
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