FM 8

[John Hedtke]

This is very similar to the change in paragraph mark property 
inheritance that happened after, uh, WinWord 6, I think it was.  This 
change in behavior was written up in "Word Annoyances" and MS was 
roundly chastised for doing it.  The explanations where always pretty 
half-assed and it sounded like the product manager had just decided 
to do this without an appreciation of the behavioral changes it would 
affect.  No amount of complaining got them to fix it, sadly, and 
we've had to make do with working around it since.

I hope that that this will get treated like a bug by Adobe and 
actually fixed instead of having a similar smoke-and-mirrors 
explanation without any resolution.

Yours truly,

John Hedtke
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At 06:20 AM 3/24/2008, Yves Barbion wrote:
>Hi John,
>
>there is indeed a difference in behaviour between FM 7 and FM 8. The
>behaviour you are describing occurs if the paragraphs don't contain any
>text (yet). So:
>
>1.) Put some text in the paragraph below the one which you are going to
>delete. Delete the above paragraph. The next paragraph will keep its tag.
>
>2.) Put some text in the paragraph before you press Enter. The next
>paragraph will get the tag which is in the Next Pgf Tag of the Paragraph
>Designer.
>
>I also preferred the behaviour of FM 7. It allowed me to create a
>"blank" structure very quickly:
>
>    1. Apply the paratag "topictitle" to a blank paragraph.
>    2. Press ENTER to get a blank paragraph tagged "sectiontitle".
>    3. Press ENTER to get a paragraph tagged "body".
>    4. Write my body text.
>    5. Fill in the sectiontitle and topictitle, depending on what I have
>       written in the body text.
>
>I doubt whether Adobe will consider this a bug and will therefore
>release a patch for it.
>
>Kind regards
>
>Yves Barbion
>Documentation Architect
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>John Pilla wrote:
> > Our company just upgraded to FM 8 from FM 7.
> >
> > I noticed strange "feature" behaviours.
> >
> > 1.)  When I delete a paragraph, the paragraph below the deleted paragraph
> > takes on the properties, the paragraph tag of the paragraph above the
> > deleted paragraph.
> > This is very annoying, and wastes a lot of extra time in having to
> > re-apply a paragraph tag every time a paragraph is deleted!
> >
> > 2.)  Even though a paragraph tag, universally applied, and not over-ridden
> > has a Next Para Tag of a different one than itself,
> > when we press Enter for the new paragraph, the next paragraph is not the
> > one designated as the Next Para Tag, but the same para tag as the one we
> > were on when Enter was pressed.
> > This, too is most annoying and does not seem to be consistent.  For at
> > times it does appear to work; however, I have not been able to nail down
> > the conditions when it behaves as it should and when it does not.
> >
> > Any one know if a patch is coming out for these?
> > ............................................................
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