adding graphics to files
Art Campbell
art.campbell at gmail.com
Fri Oct 10 08:34:46 PDT 2008
It's possible that the anchored frame is smaller than the graphic,
which means the graphic's handles are "under" the frame. Right-click
the graphic, do Object Properties and set the top / left offsets to 0
or a negative number so you can grab it. Or drag the frame MUCH
larger.
However.... if you're copying the file in.... I suspect that you're
copying it in. Merging it. Making it one with the FM file. Which would
mean that it loses its own identity and handles.
r-e-f-e-r-e-n-c-e
Cheers,
Art
Art Campbell
art.campbell at gmail.com
"... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
Vincent and a redheaded grl." -- Richard Thompson
No disclaimers apply.
DoD 358
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 11:27 AM, Deirdre Reagan
<deirdre.reagan at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hum.
>
> I'm having the same problem over and over with the PDF file.
>
> Once it's imported into the file, I can't access it. I ctrl-click the
> frame, but the handles don't appear.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Deirdre
>
> On 10/10/08, Art Campbell <art.campbell at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Most people's primary reason is that a reference keeps the FM file
>> from bloating (copying in physically adds all the graphic info to the
>> file). This means the file is quicker to load, scroll, and modify, is
>> less likely to become corrupt just because there are fewer bytes
>> involved, and is just more easily portable.
>>
>> It also makes the graphic easier to edit and change.
>>
>> Other benefits include allowing people to work on the graphic and have
>> their changes included automatically, supporting translation better
>> (because different language files can be swapped in on a
>> directory-level basis),
>>
>> Art
>>
>> Art Campbell
>> art.campbell at gmail.com
>> "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
>> Vincent and a redheaded grl." -- Richard Thompson
>> No disclaimers apply.
>> DoD 358
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 11:05 AM, Deirdre Reagan
>> <deirdre.reagan at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > LOL -- yes, sorry -- I was between emails. The best source is a PDF
>> > -- I'm so excited to find out that I can open the PDF in Photoshop,
>> > tweak it, and save it as a PDF.
>> >
>> > That's going to save me a lot of time.
>> >
>> > Import by reference: sadly, I'm not allowed to do that.
>> >
>> > But just out of curiosity, why is import by reference better than import?
>> >
>> > Thanks again for all the advice.
>> >
>> > Deirdre
>> >
>> > On 10/10/08, Art Campbell <art.campbell at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> Uh no, that isn't what I was saying and I don't think that's what Fred
>> >> would recommend either.
>> >> You didn't say the source file was a PDF, or if you did, I missed it.
>> >>
>> >> If you already have the source graphic in a PDF, that's your best
>> >> final format right there because it's a PostScript file. Vector based,
>> >> scalable, etc. Only way you can degrade it is by converting it to
>> >> another graphic format.... which is what you've been doing.
>> >>
>> >> You can optimize the PDF further with Acrobat, and you can crop it
>> >> with Photoshop or another program, both actions that will reduce the
>> >> file size. But other than that, you're good to go.
>> >>
>> >> And you should still be importing it by reference....
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >> Art
>> >>
>> >> Art Campbell
>> >> art.campbell at gmail.com
>> >> "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
>> >> Vincent and a redheaded grl." -- Richard Thompson
>> >> No disclaimers apply.
>> >> DoD 358
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 9:37 AM, Deirdre Reagan
>> >> <deirdre.reagan at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > Thanks all.
>> >> >
>> >> > I really appreciate your feedback -- you are confirming what I
>> >> > suspected but don't have enough knowledge to back up!
>> >> >
>> >> > Here's my situation:
>> >> >
>> >> > I get the drawing package as a PDF file.
>> >> >
>> >> > I don't have AutoCad or Katia or any of the other drawing progams, so
>> >> > I can't access the original vector drawing.
>> >> >
>> >> > I've been turning the PDF into a bitmap file and copying and pasting
>> >> > it into my file.
>> >> >
>> >> > I copy and paste because the lead technical writer is adamantly
>> >> > against importing by reference.
>> >> >
>> >> > He also told me that I have to stop using bitmap because bitmap
>> >> > graphics won't work if we have to turn these documents into HTML
>> >> > (STML? XML? Some sort of web-based product) documents.
>> >> >
>> >> > So, based on what you all are telling me, bitmap is the best way to go (yeah!).
>> >> >
>> >> > And bitmapped graphics are just fine for web-based documents?
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks so much guys!
>> >> >
>> >> > From the fun factory,
>> >> >
>> >> > Deirdre
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On 10/9/08, Art Campbell <art.campbell at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> Fred's on top of the graphic issues. Bottom line is JPG is the way
>> >> >> wrong format and is adding some bloat.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> However, its not clear from the OP message whether you're copying the
>> >> >> graphic file in, or importing by reference.
>> >> >> Importing by refrence is the preferred way to do it. Copying is not
>> >> >> the way to go.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> If you are copying them in, that would be a good reason for the slowdown.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Art.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Art Campbell
>> >> >> art.campbell at gmail.com
>> >> >> "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
>> >> >> Vincent and a redheaded grl." -- Richard Thompson
>> >> >> No disclaimers apply.
>> >> >> DoD 358
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 6:06 PM, Fred Ridder <docudoc at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Deirdre Reagan wrote:
>> >> >> >> Anyhow, when I add jpgs to my Framemaker file (FM 8.0, Windows XP),
>> >> >> >> Framemaker slows way down when I scroll over the page with the jpg.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> The jpgs are 300 dpi, which they need to be for good print resolution
>> >> >> >> (they are black and white drawings).
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I import the file to an anchored frame, then resize the graphic to 80
>> >> >> >> percent because it is usually too large for the anchored frame.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I really don't know anything about graphics, so anything advice would
>> >> >> >> be most appreciated.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > To cover only a couple of the most basic issues:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > First and foremost, JPEG is *not* an appropriate file format for line art
>> >> >> > or anything containing text. JPEG was specifically designed for
>> >> >> > *photographic* images, which tend to conceal many of the format's
>> >> >> > shortcomings due to the continuous-tone nature of photographs.
>> >> >> > JPEG's area-based image compression algorithm inherently produces
>> >> >> > artifacts near abroupt color transitions, which is clearly seen as a
>> >> >> > kind of gray smudginess alongside lines in drawings or as a kind of
>> >> >> > cloud surrounding text. For line art you should be using a lossless file
>> >> >> > format like EPS, WMF (or EMF), or PNG (or GIF or TIFF or even BMP).
>> >> >> > The one file format you should *not* use is JPEG.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Second, if you need to scale your graphics, you should use a vector
>> >> >> > file format (EPS, WMF, EMF) rather than a raster file format (any of
>> >> >> > the others mentioned). Vector images contain mathematical descriptions
>> >> >> > of the geometric and text objects in the drawing, which means that
>> >> >> > they can be rescaled over a wide range of sizes with no loss in quality.
>> >> >> > Raster graphics contain a pixel-by-pixel rendering of the image, and
>> >> >> > to rescale them you either have to change the pixel pitch or you have
>> >> >> > to resample them to throw away pixels or make up new pixels that
>> >> >> > don't exist.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Third, if you do have raster images (screen shots, for example), the
>> >> >> > best way to change their reproduced size in FrameMaker is not
>> >> >> > to use the scaling command, but rather to change the dpi setting.
>> >> >> > Doubling the dpi will reduce the dimensions to 50%; halving the
>> >> >> > dpi will double the reproduced size of the image. If this approach
>> >> >> > is not acceptable for some reason, the other alternative is to use
>> >> >> > a tool like PaintShop Pro or Photoshop to resample the image, but
>> >> >> > this *always* causes a loss in quality.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I'll leave any other issues to others to address.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > -Fred Ridder
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
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