ACTIVATING FONTS

Dov Isaacs isaacs at adobe.com
Sun Sep 7 09:02:52 PDT 2008


Michael,

Unfortunately, I cannot recommend ATM as a font manager given that for
a number of years, Adobe has neither marketed, sold, or supported ATM.
Obviously, if you licensed it prior to our discontinuance of the product,
you are certainly welcome to continue using it, understanding of course
that Adobe no longer provides any technical support for the product,
that does not readily install under Vista 32-bit and simply won't install
or run under Vista 64-bit.

I have no experience with the Extensis product such that I could give
you a recommendation one way or another, sorry!

        - Dov

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Zaichenko [mailto:biozaichenko at hotmail.com]
> Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 8:45 AM
> To: Dov Isaacs
> Subject: RE: ACTIVATING FONTS
>
> Dear Dov,
> thanks for such an extensive answer. I had no idea. What handles it so far is de-activating,
> activating a set. Then it gets picked up by Frame too. I probably will set it up so when i add font it
> is not activated and then click activate and all will be good. Do you think its a good idea to go with
> extensis or is ATM a prefered font manager?
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> ________________________________________
>
> > From: isaacs at adobe.com
> > To: biozaichenko at hotmail.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com
> > Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 18:06:57 -0700
> > Subject: RE: ACTIVATING FONTS
> >
> > Michael,
> >
> > Contrary to what you may believe, FrameMaker has no "autoactivation"
> > option it it. Like other Windows applications, when a font is added to
> > the system, via Windows' standard "Add Fonts" control panel option or
> > via ATM (or for that matter any font manager that properly interfaces
> > with Windows), Windows' underlying font system sends a message to all
> > open applications advising of a change in the font system. An application
> > may then choose to query the system for all available fonts (font enumeration).
> >
> > If adding a font via Extensis Suitcase does not properly get notification
> > to applications about the change in the available fonts, it is likely an
> > issue with Suitcase.
> >
> > By the way, you are misusing the term "autoactivation." The term
> > "autoactivation" would refer to the scenario whereby your document (in this
> > case, a FrameMaker document) refers to a font that isn't currently installed
> > on your system. "Autoactivation" would cause the font manager to look for
> > the desired font in its own private collection of available, but not installed
> > fonts, and if such a font was available, automatically and immediately install
> > that font on the system and advise the application of its availability.
> >
> > For better or worse, such an "autoactivation" capability normally requires
> > "cooperation" (i.e., a programming interface) with the application programs
> > that could make use of same. Neither FrameMaker nor ATM support any
> > "autoactivation" mechanism.
> >
> > - Dov
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Michael Zaichenko
> > > Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2008 11:20 AM
> > >
> > > Hello Framers,
> > > Been using ATM for years. FrameMaker has this autoactivation option in it which is only compatible
> > > with ATM. I.e. when you install a font - it gets picked up by FrameMaker instantly. I'm trying
> > > Extensis Suitcase now and noticed that unless I restart FrameMaker - the fonts wouldn't show up
> and no
> > > messages would pop up that the new fonts are installed. ATM is all good when one is using a stable
> set
> > > of fonts. But what if I'm having about 20 differently mapped fonts and depending on a language I
> would
> > > just install the fonts for that language. Fonts are with the same names. In this wise I don't have
> to
> > > make changes in the template documents. ATM only allows 1 version of a font (plus adds a confusion
> if
> > > you install true type and type1 version of the same font). I'm trying to swap over to Suitcase but
> > > then there is this bug with not activating fonts immediately (besides that it can't export/import
> > > set).
> > >
> > > Does anyone know how to go about it?
> > >
> > > Michael
>



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