Smart quotes

[Joel Wilhelm]

I magnified to 800% and the quotes are indeed slightly different. I guess
it's just hard to notice in Myriad.
Joel

On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 8:59 PM, Susan Modlin <smodlin at yahoo.com> wrote:

> The version that Dov mentions is the same one that shipped with FrameMaker
> 7.0.
>
> Joel, try this: Change your magnification to 800% and look at your Mryiad
> Pro quotes. You should be able to see a subtle shift in the weight between
> the open and close quotes. They both slant to the right, but the open quotes
> are bottom heavy and the close quotes are top heavy.
>
> HTH,
>
> ...Susan
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Dov Isaacs <isaacs at adobe.com>
> To: Joel Wilhelm <eleysium at gmail.com>; Framers <framers at frameusers.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 9, 2008 5:46:22 PM
> Subject: RE: Smart quotes
>
> OK, I tried this myself with FrameMaker 8.0p277 (the latest update).
> I typed the same text with quotes (using the standard US keyboard straight
> double quote - i.e., the inch character - as my double quote character)
> in Times New Roman, Arial, Minion Pro, and Myriad Pro.
>
> For all four lines of text with those four fonts, I achieved the proper
> "smart quotes" results including Myriad Pro. It shows up correctly on
> the screen in FrameMaker, prints correctly, and saves as PDF correctly
> (i.e., the proper "smart quotes" - left and right double quotes instead
> of an inch character appear).
>
> One thing that you should be aware of is that left and right typographical
> quote characters in Myriad Pro (a sans serif font) have much more subtle
> differences than such differences in Minion Pro (a serif font). You have to
> look closely to see the differences which are primarily in whether the
> lines
> are thicker at the top or bottom. This is not that unusual for san serif
> fonts!
>
> If that is not the issue, perhaps you are using an older version of Myriad
> Pro?
> I personally don't recall changes in Myriad Pro over the years to fix any
> problem
> of this class, but I will check on this with my expert friends in the Adobe
> Type
> Development organization. The current version of Myriad Pro, appearing with
> Acrobat 9
> (and I believe Reader 9) and Font Folio 11 is version 2.037. The version of
> Myriad
> Pro that shipped with FrameMaker 8 is 2.007 which is probably the same
> version that
> shipped with CS3 and possibly Acrobat 8.
>
>         - Dov
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Joel Wilhelm
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 1:36 PM
> >
> > Thanks for the replies. I messed with some different fonts and it does
> look
> > like a problem with Myriad Pro. Minion Pro produces smart quotes, as well
> as
> > other fonts. Myriad won't do it. Bummer.
> > Joel
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 3:58 PM, Joel Wilhelm <eleysium at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I am using Frame 8 and I *cannot* get smart quotes to work. I chose
> Format
> > > > Document > Text Options and checked smart quotes, then tried what the
> > > manual says, and I still get straight quotes. I am on XP, using Myriad
> Pro
> > > for my font. What am I doing wrong?
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Joel
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