Of Autonumbers, "Symbols," and FM 9 -- REPOST WITH TABLE FIX

[Pinkham, Jim]

Thank YOU, Karen, for reminding me I'm not alone with this problem...and of the joys of plain-text posts. On the former, perhaps Megha can help us still. On the latter, I should have remembered the pitfalls when I included the table. I'll try to tap some old typewriter tabulation skills and give this another shot:

I'm running into a seemingly strange phenomenon with FM 9. I'm working with a lot of legacy documents that have formatting issues, and part of my workflow involves importing and replacing formats using a template formatted the way I wish it to be -- typically, with the very useful CleanImport plug-in.

In FM 9, I'm finding that when I do this import, I now get the unexpected side effect that the symbol used in the Autonumber Format area of the Paragraph Designer changes. For example:

      Original 			     Unintentionally
      Format     	Font      	     Modified Format    Font
     
      ð\t      	Wingdings	     š\t			Wingdings
     
      à\t     	Wingdings	     ‡\t			Wingdings
     
I'm not sure how or why this changes. I have developed a workaround. I go to my source document, do a Global Update, Numbering Properties, for each of the paragraph formats in question, applying this to all paragraphs in the source document that have the individual tags in question. I am not changing the formats in any way, simply re-applying them. Then I re-import the paragraph and character formats to all of the remaining files, and then the paragraphs with these various "list bullets," for want of a better term, are all restored to normalcy.

So it's not the end of the world, just an unwelcome extra step. Any ideas?

Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: Karen Mann [mailto:kmann at i-t-tech.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 11:26 AM
To: Pinkham, Jim; framers at lists.frameusers.com; Megha Chaitanya
Subject: RE: Of Autonumbers, "Symbols," and FM 9

Thanks Jim, I had the same issue, legacy, importing etc but with the bullet and symbol. When I applied the bullet tag my text went to Greek and the bullet symbol was another symbol.
Ugh! I left out a step so when Megha tried to assist she could not.
Sorry Megha, I had so many deadlines and FM9 bugs were bouncing all over me. 

In Paragraph Designer autonumber I highlighted the bullet, went to Character map got the bullet, went to Character Designer sized the bullet and did Global update, then did a global apply. Have been doing this for all docs. I did not do a re-import. We do 99% legacy and they are very individual so most of the time a template import is not effective. 
I however do not have the CleanImport plug-in.

This "Framers" thing is the greatest!
Thanks all.

Karen M
Not an expert...

-----Original Message-----
From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Pinkham, Jim
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 10:44 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Of Autonumbers, "Symbols," and FM 9

I'm running into a seemingly strange phenomenon with FM 9. I'm working with a lot of legacy documents that have formatting issues, and part of my workflow involves importing and replacing formats using a template formatted the way I wish it to be -- typically, with the very useful CleanImport plug-in.
 
In FM 9, I'm finding that when I do this import, I now get the unexpected side effect that the symbol used in the Autonumber Format area of the Paragraph Designer changes. For example:
 
Original Format

Font

Unintentionally Modified Format

Font

ð\t 

Wingdings

š\t

Wingdings

à\t

Wingdings

‡\t

Wingdings

 
I'm not sure how or why this changes. I have developed a workaround. I go to my source document, do a Global Update, Numbering Properties, for each of the paragraph formats in question, applying this to all paragraphs in the source document that have the individual tags in question. I am not changing the formats in any way, simply re-applying them. Then I re-import the paragraph and character formats to all of the remaining files, and then the paragraphs with these various "list bullets," for want of a better term, are all restored to normalcy.
 
So it's not the end of the world, just an unwelcome extra step. Any ideas?
 
Jim
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