Import by Reference Question/Bug ?

Wed Aug 19 06:17:33 PDT 2009

"Heroic open" is an escape-key command that causes FrameMaker to ignore any of the conditions that normally cause warnings or messages during the open process, and therefore allows you to open files that have certain minor forms of corruption. The command is Esc, o, H (meaning Escape, lower-case O, and capital H pressed *in sequence* rather than in combination). 
BTW, you can find many postings about heroic open in the FrameUsers archive by using the Google query string
"heroic open" site:frameusers.com
(where the quotes *are* part of the quety string)

-Fred Ridder

> Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?
> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 08:58:37 -0400
> From: jeff.coatsworth at jonassoftware.com
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> 
> Ok, I give - what's a "heroic open"? Can you explain it for newbies like
> me?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Richard
> Melanson
> Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 8:46 AM
> To: Richard Melanson; Combs, Richard
> Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?
> 
> I am not sure who posted the suggestion on using Heroic Open, but it
> worked. When I open via this method, the Ignore and Skip work fine and I
> am able to do whatever I need with the file. Thank you Everyone for all
> your assistance. 
> Rick
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Richard
> Melanson
> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 6:31 PM
> To: Combs, Richard
> Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?
> 
> Thank you for your input Richard, unfortunately, I am completely
> dependent on them and their system, when they are changing a file, it is
> moved to a pending directory. I have no say in this matter. I am just
> doing the best I can with what I have. Any idea why I still have the
> problem? Thank you. 
> Rick 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Combs, Richard [mailto:richard.combs at Polycom.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 6:01 PM
> To: Richard Melanson
> Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?
> 
> Richard Melanson wrote:
> 
> > I use the import by reference function as a kind of alerting system.
> My
> > Engineering group has a bunch of directories filled with schematic and
> 
> > mechanical drawings they convert to jpg or png or pdf. I then import
> by
> > reference from these directories into my Frame file to create a
> drawing
> > book. If Engineering is changing a drawing, it is taken out of its 
> > original directory and placed into a pending directory waiting for the
> 
> > DCO and the new drawing to become available. When Engineering moves
> the
> > file, this breaks the import by reference link thus alerting me that
> my
> > drawing book needs to be updated.
> > 
> > Its at this point I run into my problem of not being able to get by
> the
> > Missing File window. I have also run into the scenario you state below
> 
> > where multiple files have been moved for updating. I get an updated 
> > drawing placed back into its original directory, Frame recognizes the 
> > new drawing and moves on to the next missing file and sticks, its as
> if
> > the Ignore and Skip functions just don't work.
> 
> OK, I see now. 
> 
> If multiple missing files are all in the same new location, say
> ../pending_graphics, then in the FM Missing Files dialog, you only need
> to identify the new path once for the first missing file. FM will look
> in that same location for the other missing ones, rather than bothering
> you again. 
> 
> Of course, with your workflow, you'll have to point FM back to the
> original location once the changed files are DCOed. A PITA, for sure... 
> 
> Personally, I think the workflow leaves a lot to be desired. If a
> graphics directory is the repository for files imported into FM by
> reference, then those files should never be removed, only replaced by
> newer versions with the same name. 
> 
> A different alerting system can surely be devised. For instance, if
> there is a file xyz_123.png in the ../graphics directory, the appearance
> of a file with the same name in the ../pending_graphics directory should
> be enough of an alert without the former being removed. If the engineers
> can't/won't leave the former where it is pending DCO of the latter, then
> perhaps you should use a different directory as the source for the
> graphics. Copy all the files in ../graphics to your /docsource_graphics
> directory. A script could do that. A script could also look at
> ../pending_graphics periodically to alert you to upcoming changes. 
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> Richard G. Combs
> Senior Technical Writer
> Polycom, Inc.
> richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
> 303-223-5111
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