Creating right tab with leader consisting of unbroken (mid) line [resend]

[Shuttleworth, Roger]

Hi Michael

Another manual method, perhaps easier than the one you describe, is:
1. Select the line of text.
2. Hold down Alt and user the left arrow key to move the whole line to the left until the space is taken up.
 
You could perhaps semi-automate this by doing a find for that particular paragraph tag. However, that would select the whole para, and you only want
to move the first line.

Caveat: You can't assume that what you see on screen is what will appear in print. Check the DisplayUsingPrinterMetrics setting in the maker.ini file,
and ensure it is set to on. Even if it is, you need to check that the line prints as you expect. 

Regards,

Roger Shuttleworth
London, Canada


-----Original Message-----
From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Michael Kerrisk
Sent: September 30, 2009 10:56 PM
To: Art Campbell; l_c_smalley at yahoo.com; Reng, Dr. Winfried
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Creating right tab with leader consisting of unbroken (mid) line [resend]

Hi Art, Les, and all,

Winfried off list also pointed out to me how the way to use em-dash or
en-dash here.

This solution is nearly good enough, There is one small problem: the
resulting leader does not quite begin at the left margin. I suppose
that this is because a whole number of dashes doesn't exactly fit to
the flow width, so there is a little space left over at the start of
the line. I found a solution for this, but it is not optimal: place a
stretched em-dash at the start of the line (i.e., before the tab that
creates the leader). I say that this is not optimal because it will
require additional manual work, and there are hundreds of cases. Is
there a better way of ensuring that the leader starts flush with the
left margin?

Cheers,

Michael


On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 4:16 PM, Art Campbell <art.campbell at gmail.com> wrote:
> On FM 8, I can set an m-dash as the leading character for a right tab
> by inserting it in text and copy-and-pasting it into the Leading
> character field (or use Lester's character string). If the m-dashes
> don't connect, it'll be more complicated, but not bad. On the Font tab
> for the paragraph, set the spread to -20% to eliminate the gaps.
>
> This creates a problem though -- it'll also squish the text characters.
>
> To fix this, create a new character tag that has all properties set to
> As Is except the Spread -- which you leave at 0. Apply it to the text
> in your leading tag, and it should revert the text to normal
> appearance. You may be able to automate this using the Autonumbering
> tab to set the character tag -- I didn't test that part of it.
>
> Art
>
> Art Campbell
>               art.campbell at gmail.com
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>
>
> On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 3:05 AM, Michael Kerrisk
> <michael.kerrisk at googlemail.com> wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have a simple question (I think). I Would like to create a visual
>> effect (that will be repeatedly used) where a some text on a line is
>> tabbed to the right margin, and preceded by an unbroken line that sits
>> at the mid-level of the characters in the text. Roughly it would look
>> like this:
>>
>>  ------------------------------------------ mytext
>>
>> where the final "t" falls at the right margin. The idea is that the
>> line should be unbroken (unlike my ASCII line above), as one might get
>> by splicing together a series of en- or em-dashes.
>>
>> I can get something close to this effect using a Right Tab, and
>> specifying the leader character as underscore (_):
>>
>>  ________________________ mytext
>>
>> But the problem is that the line falls at the bottom on the
>> characters, when I want it in the middle.
>>
>> I don't seem to be able to specify an en- or em-dash as the leader
>> character for the tab. But perhaps I missed something. Is this
>> possible (and will it produce the result I want)? Failing that, is
>> there another way of achieving the kind of effect I'm describing?
>>
>> I am using FrameMaker 7.2. (If what I'm wanting to do is possible only
>> in a later version of FrameMaker, that would be interesting to know.)
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Michael
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