Replace on part of a wildcards search

[Peter Gold]

The FM9 Help online has a bunch of find/search pages, but not this
GREP-like stuff at all. However, I took the hint from the earlier
mention in this thread to check out the keystroke shortcuts, and, in
addition to being knocked out to see the seemingly unabridged list of
every possible FrameMaker keystroke shortcut, there, on page 499, is a
two-column sub-section called "With Use Wildcards Turned On," in a
table titled "Keys for Finding and Changing," that shows the seven
example searches. Technically, other than the Ctrl+F keystroke
shortcut to open Find, the search strings need to be typed manually.
This is one of the two occurrences of "wildcard" in the whole manual.
There are no example results, as in the three-column example in the
earlier releases' documentation.

So, I retract my previous statement that there's no hint of this
feature in FM9 docs; there's a hint, it's just not in the index, and
only findable by searching for "wildcard."

Regards,

Peter
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On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 4:02 PM, David Spreadbury <dspreadb at yahoo.com> wrote:
> You are quite right.
>
> The Frame 5.5 User Guide has about eight pages, starting on page 55, on
> performing searches.
>
> There is a half-page table on page 57, the same one that is in the
> referenced handout, on Using Wildcards in a Search.
>
> Somewhere I should have a copy of the Frame 4 User Guide, which probably
> goes into even more depth. Need to do some more digging.
>
> David Spreadbury
> Sr. Technical Writer
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt Sullivan [mailto:matt at grafixtraining.com]
> Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 2:53 PM
> To: 'David Spreadbury'; peter at knowhowpro.com; 'Les Smalley'
> Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: RE: Replace on part of a wildcards search
>
> Part of what you may be looking for was in an FM 5.5 handout I got as part
> of the FrameMaker Classroom in a Box product.
>
> I've posted the PDF here
> http://www.grafixtraining.com/reference/
> And the information on wildcard searches is in Handout 6-3 on page 12
>
> The info is (obviously) from FM 5.5, but still quite current.
>
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of David Spreadbury
> Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 11:54 AM
> To: peter at knowhowpro.com; 'Les Smalley'
> Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: RE: Replace on part of a wildcards search
>
> Searching for "framemaker grep" brought what might be a source for using
> GREP with Adobe products. Apparently it is not limited to FrameMaker. Try
> reading what is available at http://carijansen.com/. If this doesn't help,
> maybe contacting the author, Cari Jansen, in Perth, Australia, would provide
> the answers.
>
> HTH
>
> David Spreadbury
> Sr. Technical Writer
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Peter Gold
> Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 1:32 PM
> To: Les Smalley
> Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: Replace on part of a wildcards search
>
> FrameMaker has long a GREP-like search feature, in FM, and some
> documentation for it. However, the replace wasn't GREP-like. But worse yet,
> there doesn't seem to be a trace of the documentation for it in FM9. I've
> forgotten how to use it, and without the doc, I'm not sure that my couple of
> quick tests were failing because the feature's gone from the product as well
> as the doc, or if I just didn't enter the search string correctly.
>
> I don't have an earlier FrameMaker installed, and don't have the earlier
> docs handy. Perhaps someone on the list can respond.
>
>
> HTH
>
> Regards,
>
> Peter
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> Peter Gold
> KnowHow ProServices
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>
>
> On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Les Smalley <l_c_smalley at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Hi Avi,
>>
>> The asterisk ( * ) wildcard matches any character EXCEPT spaces or
>> punctuation; the wildcard character to use for those is the verticle
>> bar ( | ) but also remember that the tab character is "\t" (no
>> quotes) ...
>>
>> Regardless, unfortunately you can't do it with FrameMaker as you
>> describe attempting.  The search tool removes everything matched by
>> the search string and inserts the replace string in its place, so you
>> will also lose the "Command" string.  It is a great disappointment
>> that a real GREP search capability (or even more general awk text
>> processing features) has never been implemented in FM.
>>
>> If
>> you search for just "Unit32" and replace that with "SHORT_ID" you can
>> do what you want by careful use of the 'Change & Find' or just 'Find'
>> buttons (and I understand how tedious and error-prone this can
>> be.)
>>
>> It may be posible to do this via scripting (e.g.
>> FrameScript, etc.; I'm sure others more knowledgeable will chime in)
>> or possibly by saving to MIF and using a text based editor on that,
>> then reopening it in FM to verify the results.
>>
>> FWIW, grep and awk
>> (and a number of other unix tools) are available as utilities for
>> Windows and any search engine can point you to places to get them.
>>
>> - Les
>>
>> --- On Mon, 10/5/09, Avraham Makeler <amakeler at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> How do you do a Replace on part of a wildcards search?
>>
>> E.,g., I am looking for a line with:
>>
>> Uint32 Command
>>
>> where there can be any type and amount of white space between "Uint32"
>> and "Command".
>>
>> So I guess the wild card search format will be
>>
>> Uint32*Command
>>
>> No?
>>
>> But then if I want to replace just the "Uint32" part with "SHORT_ID".
>> How would i do that?
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> - avi
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