RANT: FM 9.0 -

Tue Aug 3 09:13:07 PDT 2010

I was actually referring to FM but thanks for the Microsoft link.
Ribbons are for typewriters not software.

-----Original Message-----
From: Shmuel Wolfson [mailto:shmuelw1 at gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 12:06 PM
To: Butler, Darren J CTR USAF AFMC 584 CBSS/GBHDB
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: RANT: FM 9.0 -

By menu-to-ribbon, are you referring to Word? If yes, click on this 
link, then click "Start the guide":
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/word-help/interactive-word-2003-to-wor
d-2007-command-reference-guide-HA010074432.aspx

Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson
Technical Writer
052-763-7133

On 03-Aug-10 6:50 PM, Butler, Darren J CTR USAF AFMC 584 CBSS/GBHDB
wrote:
> Why Adobe would want to emulate Microsoft is beyond me. What's next, a
> dancing paper clip?
>
> We actually purchased 9.0 then down-graded (yes, you can do that) to
> FM8. High volume shop, NO time for an (un)learning curve.
>
> Are there any menu-to-ribbon road maps that one might recommend?
> Eventually, a CMS upgrade will force us to go the FM9.
>
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> Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 11:36 AM
> To: Venkat; Bill Swallow
> Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: RANT: FM 9.0 -
>
> I was cranky about it at first, but I got used to it.
>
> Nadine
>
> --- On Tue, 8/3/10, Bill Swallow<techcommdood at gmail.com>  wrote:
>
>    
>> From: Bill Swallow<techcommdood at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: RANT: FM 9.0 -
>> To: "Venkat"<venkat.partha at gmail.com>
>> Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
>> Date: Tuesday, August 3, 2010, 10:27 AM
>>      
>>> Can these behavior be changed. I
>>>        
>> do not want dialogs to be persistent. I do
>>      
>>> not want the "Not Applicable" element as the first in
>>>        
>> any selectable list.
>>
>> I don't know. You may need to take some time to wade
>> through maker.ini
>> and see if there's anything in there that can be changed.
>>
>>      
>>> IMHO, the changes made in FM9 are just eye-candy and
>>>        
>> do not add anything to
>>      
>>> the whole experience of working with Frame Maker. In
>>>        
>> fact, I find it a bit
>>      
>>> of a chore to use it.
>>>        
>> I agree with this. Jumping into FM9 after having used FM
>> for roughly
>> 12 years was a bit of a surprise. While I didn't have time
>> to poke
>> through every feature, I had difficulty wrapping my head
>> around the UI
>> for conditional text (I'm still fuzzy on the order in which
>> selections
>> need to be made in the UI in order for things to "stick").
>> Granted I
>> was in the "UI changes are not necessary" camp from the
>> beginning -
>> because the tool worked very well, as ugly as it may have
>> been - but I
>> think too much time was spent upgrading the UI and not
>> enough time was
>> spent use testing with veteran users.
>>
>> Just as with the MS Office ribbon, one should not have to
>> completely
>> relearn how to use software after a UI update. The same
>> logic,
>> keyboard shortcuts, and expected behavior should be
>> maintained.
>>
>> -- 
>> Bill Swallow
>>
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>> Blog: http://techcommdood.com
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