type vs enter and STE

[Owen, Clint]

Gillian and Richard,

You're preaching to the choir, but this type of situation comes up a lot: if you try to strictly follow the rules, you discover that there is no easy way to express a simple concept.

Generally, each allowed word has only one assigned meaning, and each concept has only one allowed word to express it.

Thus "TYPE" can only be used as a noun name for a group of something, such as "type of lubricant" or "type of damage". You can't use it in any other way.

"ENTER" can't be used at all. You can put something somewhere, go into someplace, record data, or make an entry, but you can't enter.

STE was developed by The European Association of Aerospace Companies and specified by many of our customers. Mostly we follow the rules until they become impossible, then we just get as close as we can.

Clint 


Clint Owen | Sr. Technical Writer | Crane Aerospace & Electronics | +1 425 743 8674 | Fax: +1 425 743 8113

-----Original Message-----
From: Flato, Gillian [mailto:gflato at nanometrics.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 3:04 PM
To: Owen, Clint; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: type vs enter

Clint,

That can't be right. Telling Users to enter or type text is probably the command we use most frequently. Simplified English must have a way for instructing Users how to do it. Otherwise, simplified English is completely useless.

Thank you,
 

Gillian Flato
Technical Writer (Software)
nanometrics
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-----Original Message-----
From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Owen, Clint
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 1:58 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: type vs enter

In Simplified Technical English, which has a strictly limited vocabulary and is supposed to make documents easier to understand for international readers, neither of these terms is allowed in this context. I spent a few minutes and can't think of a "STE legal" way to write the requested instructions.

Clint 


Clint Owen | Sr. Technical Writer | Crane Aerospace & Electronics | +1
425 743 8674 | Fax: +1 425 743 8113

-----Original Message-----
From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jerilynne Knight
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 1:31 PM
To: Clara Hall
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: type vs enter

When I did some informal (very informal) questioning for a project, the users found it confusing to "Enter text" and "Press Enter". In my opinion (which will also show how old I am), I still feel you "type"
information if you're actually using the keyboard.

On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Clara Hall <chall at atgshades.com> wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> I need/would like to give the argument that it is better to say "Enter

> the information in the text field"
> vs. "type the information in the text field".  this is for an online 
> training course.
>
> As far as I am concerned, type is archaic and no longer used when 
> talking about online interactive lessons.  Having said that, what do
you think?
>  and
> is there a valid stance I can take to make my point, or is this all 
> personal preference.
>
>
>
> Clara Hall
>
> Technical Documentation Manager
>
> Aerospace Technologies Group, Inc.
>
> (561) 244-7372
> www.atgshades.com <http://www.atgshades.com/>
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