Wrong conditional text displaying when using FM Track Changes facility
Heidi Bailey
HBailey at PLXTech.com
Wed Mar 31 00:35:00 PDT 2010
Very interesting! I'll test the different views and see what happens.
Thank you for the hints!
Cheers,
Heidi
-----Original Message-----
From: Reng, Dr. Winfried [mailto:wreng at tycoint.com]
Sent: 31 March 2010 08:31
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Cc: Heidi Bailey
Subject: RE: Wrong conditional text displaying when using FM Track
Changesfacility
Hi Heidi,
I have the very same FrameMaker version (although on Windows 2000).
I did exactly what you said:
Created 3 conditions A, B, C.
Enabled "Track Text Edits".
Added text "108.00". I also added this text in a table cell.
Then applied condition A to 10 and condition B to 8.
Then I hid all conditions except A.
Result: 10.00
Then I hid all conditions except B.
Result: 8.00
Then I switched on "Preview Final". Then the green colour of the "Track
Text Edits" feature disappeared.
Everything worked as expected.
However, I opened the file again and displayed everything again with
Preview off.
Then I switched on "Preview Final" and hid all conditions except A.
My result was: .00 (the contrary to your observation) The same with B.
Therefore the show/hide settings do not work correctly, when you switch
on "Preview Final" before you hide your conditions.
I append my test file.
Best regards
Winfried
> -----Original Message-----
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Heidi
> Bailey
> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 9:03 AM
> To: Combs, Richard
> Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: RE: Wrong conditional text displaying when using FM Track
> Changes facility
>
> Thanks, but that doesn't explain why condition C shows and hides
> successfully, even when it also has the track changes condition
> applied...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Combs, Richard [mailto:richard.combs at Polycom.com]
> Sent: 30 March 2010 16:11
> To: Heidi Bailey; framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: RE: Wrong conditional text displaying when using FM Track
> Changes facility
>
> Heidi Bailey wrote:
>
> > FM8p277, Windows XP.
> >
> > I have a document with 3 conditions in: call them A, B and
> C for ease.
>
> > I add text with the Track Changes facility on, so that
> reviewers can
> > see what's new. I then apply the relevant conditions to relevant
> > words/numbers/sentences.
> >
> > Then I set just condition A text to show, so that I can make a pdf
> file.
> > However, condition A and B text is showing! Condition C seems to
> > behave as you'd expect: the condition C text only displays when you
> > set it to show.
> > For example, a table cell has the entry 108.00, where condition A
> > applies to the 10 (so the entry for A should show 10.00)
> and condition
>
> > B applies to the 8 (so the entry for B should show 8.00).
> Instead it
> > shows 108.00.
> >
> > I checked that I had the right condition set to show, and that the
> > text only had the right condition applied. The problem persisted.
> >
> > The only way I have found to eliminate the problem is to accept the
> > tracked change on the bits of text that don't behave as
> expected. The
> > conditions A and B remain on the text, and then display
> correctly when
>
> > set to show.
> >
> > Anyone else seen this? Anyone got any suggested workarounds? My
> > reviewers would like to see which characters have changed, which is
> > why we use this rather than just change bars.
>
> I don't have much experience with Track Changes, but I'm pretty sure
> it relies on a couple of additional "under the covers" conditions to
> mark inserted and deleted text. So when you insert "10" and apply
> condition A to it, it's really got two conditions applied, A and
> Inserted. When you tell FM to hide A, but haven't accepted the
> changes, the Inserted condition is still set to display. So FM
> displays the "10" because you're telling it to. :-)
>
> BTW, most people who use conditional text will advise you not to
> conditionalize on as granular a level as you're using -- it's just
> asking for trouble. If it were me, I'd put "10.00" and "8.00" in
> separate paragraphs and conditionalize the paragraphs (not that it
> would help with your issue, other than making what's displayed less
> confusing).
>
>
> Richard G. Combs
> Senior Technical Writer
> Polycom, Inc.
> richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
> 303-223-5111
> ------
> rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
> 303-777-0436
> ------
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