Job Posting Question.

[Alan T Litchfield]

Thanks for your thoughts folks.

Dan: While I agree substantially with what you have to say we need to  
remember that creating a parallel list does not presuppose that list  
members are restricted to either one list or the other. People can  
subscribe to both and get postings from both and when they subscribe  
any list options are listed on the subscriptions page so they can  
check which ones they want to subscribe to. The ensure knowledge a  
line is already on the footer with a link to the subscriptions page.

Operationally a subscriber who has subscribed to both lists would not  
see a lot of difference in their traffic. In other communities where I  
have subscribed and that have multiple list structures the atomisation  
of subjects does not appear to cause issues. It is also something that  
is common in online forums, so for the average punter it is not a  
foreign concept. I think you might even find that it increases the  
target population with those subscribing to a jobbing list only and  
vice versa for the technicals list.

It would take a lot of work for some one/people to police the  
frequency at which job postings are made but in that yes, a policy  
would be desirable.

Fei Min: The question was raised as to whether this forum would be an  
appropriate place for people to begin making postings about their  
availability for work (permanent, part-time, or contract), people  
looking for work, and organisations looking for people. We are not  
talking about what has historically been the case but what could  
happen if the proposition were taken up. I then raised the question  
that if the volume of job related posts increases substantially,  
perhaps a new list specific to that type of posting be created. The  
purpose thus to reduce noise on what is otherwise a fairly busy  
technical mail list.

Certainly I am one who would make use of a second list. Anyway, its up  
to the list owners, eh.

Cheers
Alan

On 17/11/2010, at 3:26 AM, Fei Min Lorente wrote:

> For what it's worth, I agree with Dan. We've never had so many job  
> postings on this list that they're annoying, and I think most people  
> like to browse them just to see what's out there.
>
> Fei Min
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
> ] On Behalf Of Harding, Dan
> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 8:15 AM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: RE: Job Posting Question.
>
> "I think Alan's suggestion has merit.  A separate job posting/ 
> finding group would be a great asset."
>
> I'll post a dissenting opinion, simply because by fragmenting this  
> list into sublists you potentially wind up with a much smaller  
> audience seeing the announcement, not to mention unawareness of the  
> existence of the new list. This list has an established audience.
>
> I think that with some common sense guidelines, job posting/wanted  
> posts are on-target for the list (feel free to disagree with any or  
> all of the following; I'm just throwing them out there):
>
> 1. The position should be specifically FrameMaker-related; no  
> generics.
>
> 2. The subject line should have a title or prefix that clearly  
> indicates it is an employment-related announcement ("EMPLOYMENT: "  
> or something similar).
>
> 3. There should be a mandatory waiting period before reposting the  
> same announcement (1x a month max? biweekly perhaps?)
>
> It shouldn't be a problem as long as there are no abusers of the  
> policy... naïve perhaps, but hey, I can wish! :)
>
> -Dan

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