Cover needs to bleed

[Bill Swallow]

You're over-thinking it. :) Set up the FM file per normal but don't
include it in the book file. Since it's the cover it shouldn't need to
flow with numbering and such but you can also work around that if you
do need to number by setting the numbering of the first page of the
book file appropriately.

So for the cover... 8.5"x11" layout in FM, but make sure all bleeding
graphics extend beyond the edge of the page. FM allows you to do this.
Just try. :) Then, when you PDF, set the PDF output page size to
8.75"x11.25" and have the FM page centered on the PDF output page.
You'll see the 8.5"x11" page centered on the PDF page with 1/8" extra
all around it, with graphics extending into that area.

I've done this for years for perfect bound professional pressed
covers, and am very happy that FM allows you to place graphics beyond
the page boundaries.

On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 1:24 PM, LG Lists <lists at techcomplus.com> wrote:
>
> I'm joining in on this thread, because this very issue just came up with a
> client.
>
> I've read Bill Swallow's response and Stuart's below, but I still don't
> understand how to set up the FM file.
>
> I'm setting up the front and back covers to be one file separate from the
> main book.
>
> I can't get to the printer, because I was steered to the client's graphics
> person. He wanted me to leave the page size as 8.5 x 11 and set up "guides"
> for the 1/8" extra margin then just create the PDF without crop marks. As
> far as I know FM doesn't have guides like that. I'm not sure if the PDF will
> work without crop marks or changing the page size. (He uses InDesign.)
>
> I went to the link below and based on that created a graphic box that is 8.5
> x 11" with 0 top -0.02" left.
>
> I'll insert the graphic into that box, then I'm not sure what. Anything else
> I need to do in FM? I don't know how to make the PDF work for the bleeds.
>
> On top of this, I need to put text in specific places to match up with
> elements on the graphics. So, I'll put the graphic on the master page. Then
> I'm think I'll add anchored frames in the right places and put text boxes
> inside them for the text elements. Does that make sense?
>
> Thanks for any help you can offer!
>
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Stuart Rogers
> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 9:34 AM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: Cover needs to bleed
>
> On 18/04/2011 3:18 PM, Theresa de Valence wrote:
>> Hi Framers,
>>
>> Thanks for all the help you've given me lately :)
>>
>> I'm printing a Conference Guide which will be 8.5" x 11" when finished
>> The outside front and rear covers will be in colour, and I want the
>> colour to bleed to the edge.
>>
>> Do I create a Master Page to be used for the front and rear covers which
>> is 9" x 11.5"? (The printer has an Indigo which prints 12" x 18").
>>
>> Or should I accomplish this bleed a different way?
>>
>> Will having pages which used different sizes of master pages cause any
>> problem with book generation?
>>
>> Will having page sizes larger than 8.5" x 11" cause any problems with
>> printing the book (to check it) on my local printer?
>>
>> Any advice you want to confer?
>>
>
> There's some advice here:
> http://www.freeframers.org/archive/04/msg00164.html
>
> Sounds like you should keep your FM page size the same, but extend your
> graphics beyond its boundaries.  Then when distilling, specify a larger
> paper size and crop marks.
>
> HTH
>
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