framers Digest, Vol 66, Issue 22
venkan
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Mon Apr 25 10:02:27 PDT 2011
Dear Sir,
I am facing issues in Helvetica Font when converting to PDF. Most of the
texts are not converted in PDF. We are getting white spaces. Please help and
advice.
Thanks
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1. Re: Cover needs to bleed - More Questions (Theresa de Valence)
2. master pages for table of contents (Prithvi Diwanji)
3. Re: OFF-Topic: Perfect Proverb for Tech Writers (Gay Alson)
4. RE: master pages for table of contents (Combs, Richard)
5. Re: Cover needs to bleed - More Questions (Bill Swallow)
6. Re: master pages for table of contents (Bill Swallow)
7. Re: master pages for table of contents (Bill Swallow)
8. RE: master pages for table of contents (Sharon Burton)
9. Re: master pages for table of contents (Stuart Rogers)
10. Re: master pages for table of contents (Bill Swallow)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2011 10:59:30 -0700
From: Theresa de Valence <TdeV at bstw.com>
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Cover needs to bleed - More Questions
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On 4/20/2011 21:20, Bill Swallow wrote:
> You're over-thinking it. :) Set up the FM file per normal but don't
> include it in the book file. Since it's the cover it shouldn't need to
> flow with numbering and such but you can also work around that if you
> do need to number by setting the numbering of the first page of the
> book file appropriately.
>
> So for the cover... 8.5"x11" layout in FM, but make sure all bleeding
> graphics extend beyond the edge of the page. FM allows you to do this.
> Just try. :) Then, when you PDF, set the PDF output page size to
> 8.75"x11.25" and have the FM page centered on the PDF output page.
> You'll see the 8.5"x11" page centered on the PDF page with 1/8" extra
> all around it, with graphics extending into that area.
>
> I've done this for years for perfect bound professional pressed
> covers, and am very happy that FM allows you to place graphics beyond
> the page boundaries.
I separated the inside/outside front/rear covers into their own book,
created 8.5x11" pages. The images were created in Photoshop and are
8.75X11.25" and then I imported the images onto separate master pages
and saved book as pdf which I have sent to the two printers who are
providing Cost Estimates for my project and asked them to ask their
pre-press guys if the documents I am sending will print properly.
Neither printer has responded, and I don't have hopes I'll eventually
hear from them, so I want to make sure I get it right the first time.
The book will be 8.5 x 11" when finished but the pages are 17 x 11" and
are folded in half down the long side and will be stapled or saddle stiched.
Does this not mean that the outside front and outside rear have to have
the image trimmed on the "joining" side, i.e. the images should be
8.625" x 11.25" for a properly bleeded image?
Thanks.
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 16:24:51 +0530
From: Prithvi Diwanji <prithvi.diwanji at druva.com>
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: master pages for table of contents
Message-ID: <BANLkTi=svt2whcQcSJPVd1Kq7FAXjkUHjQ at mail.gmail.com>
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hello all
i am in the process of designing a new template.
i am done with the chapter design (layouts, para+char etc)
now i am trying to make a template for the TOC using the chapter template.
i can generate a toc and then modify the styles etc, but that is not giving
me a proper page layout for the TOC. ideally i want to base the TOC on the
chapter template)
i do a save as of the chapter template as a toc.
add a disconnected page
then rename the toc file on disk as book_nameTOC etcv
then i generate the toc in the book
then i open the book_nameTOC file
nothing is working
can someone guide me please.
sorry if the question is repeated...
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 08:57:47 -0400
From: "Gay Alson" <GALSON at epicor.com>
To: <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: Re: OFF-Topic: Perfect Proverb for Tech Writers
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>> "Less words. Less crap." -- Shtikl.com
Shouldn't that be "Fewer words"?
(Sorry to be nitpicky -- but we are tech writers, after all...)
Gay Alson
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 07:06:09 -0700
From: "Combs, Richard" <richard.combs at Polycom.com>
To: Prithvi Diwanji <prithvi.diwanji at druva.com>,
"framers at lists.frameusers.com" <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: RE: master pages for table of contents
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Prithvi Diwanji wrote:
> hello all
> i am in the process of designing a new template.
> i am done with the chapter design (layouts, para+char etc)
> now i am trying to make a template for the TOC using the chapter template.
>
> i can generate a toc and then modify the styles etc, but that is not
giving
> me a proper page layout for the TOC. ideally i want to base the TOC on the
> chapter template)
You can import page layouts from the chapter file. File > Import > Formats.
> i do a save as of the chapter template as a toc.
> add a disconnected page
Why would you want to do that?
> then rename the toc file on disk as book_nameTOC etcv
> then i generate the toc in the book
> then i open the book_nameTOC file
> nothing is working
That's a bit vague ...
Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 10:09:49 -0400
From: Bill Swallow <techcommdood at gmail.com>
To: Theresa de Valence <TdeV at bstw.com>
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Cover needs to bleed - More Questions
Message-ID: <BANLkTim6oHKte-6BubKF0kf6Dj-x-5+2Lg at mail.gmail.com>
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I see what you're looking to do. Create a 2-page 11x17 cover file
then, with the bleeds around the edges only. That will avoid any odd
bleed effects at the fold.
On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Theresa de Valence <TdeV at bstw.com> wrote:
> On 4/20/2011 21:20, Bill Swallow wrote:
>>
>> You're over-thinking it. :) Set up the FM file per normal but don't
>> include it in the book file. Since it's the cover it shouldn't need to
>> flow with numbering and such but you can also work around that if you
>> do need to number by setting the numbering of the first page of the
>> book file appropriately.
>>
>> So for the cover... 8.5"x11" layout in FM, but make sure all bleeding
>> graphics extend beyond the edge of the page. FM allows you to do this.
>> Just try. :) Then, when you PDF, set the PDF output page size to
>> 8.75"x11.25" and have the FM page centered on the PDF output page.
>> You'll see the 8.5"x11" page centered on the PDF page with 1/8" extra
>> all around it, with graphics extending into that area.
>>
>> I've done this for years for perfect bound professional pressed
>> covers, and am very happy that FM allows you to place graphics beyond
>> the page boundaries.
>
> I separated the inside/outside front/rear covers into their own book,
> created 8.5x11" pages. The images were created in Photoshop and are
> 8.75X11.25" and then I imported the images onto separate master pages and
> saved book as pdf which I have sent to the two printers who are providing
> Cost Estimates for my project and asked them to ask their pre-press guys
if
> the documents I am sending will print properly. Neither printer has
> responded, and I don't have hopes I'll eventually hear from them, so I
want
> to make sure I get it right the first time.
>
> The book will be 8.5 x 11" when finished but the pages are 17 x 11" and
are
> folded in half down the long side and will be stapled or saddle stiched.
>
> Does this not mean that the outside front and outside rear have to have
the
> image trimmed on the "joining" side, i.e. the images should be 8.625" x
> 11.25" for a properly bleeded image?
>
> Thanks.
--
Bill Swallow
Twitter: @techcommdood
Blog: http://techcommdood.com
LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/techcommdood
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 10:15:22 -0400
From: Bill Swallow <techcommdood at gmail.com>
To: Prithvi Diwanji <prithvi.diwanji at druva.com>
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: master pages for table of contents
Message-ID: <BANLkTi=ey7u+iMHXZXB7VtZkm+SAjeQxpQ at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
You should have FM automatically create the TOC file and then import
your page layouts from the chapter file into the TOC, then modify the
TOC styles as needed to fit that layout. That's it.
The reason "nothing is working" is likely because per your process the
TOC file in your book contains no TOC elements on the reference pages
for FM to use in building a TOC. Best practice is to import layouts
into a generated TOC file.
On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 6:54 AM, Prithvi Diwanji
<prithvi.diwanji at druva.com> wrote:
> hello all
> i am in the process of designing a new template.
> i am done with the chapter design (layouts, para+char etc)
> now i am trying to make a template for the TOC using the chapter template.
>
> i can generate a toc and then modify the styles etc, but that is not
giving
> me a proper page layout for the TOC. ideally i want to base the TOC on the
> chapter template)
>
> i do a save as of the chapter template as a toc.
> add a disconnected page
> then rename the toc file on disk as book_nameTOC etcv
> then i generate the toc in the book
> then i open the book_nameTOC file
> nothing is working
>
> can someone guide me please.
>
> sorry if the question is repeated...
--
Bill Swallow
Twitter: @techcommdood
Blog: http://techcommdood.com
LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/techcommdood
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 11:59:17 -0400
From: Bill Swallow <techcommdood at gmail.com>
To: Prithvi Diwanji <prithvi.diwanji at druva.com>
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: master pages for table of contents
Message-ID: <BANLkTimA0s-ybMQGncJb3Wb9VDNonfiSSw at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
You'll have the check your hierarchy and formatting of the TOC styles.
As for your previous question about layout, you apply master pages to
the TOC body pages just as you would with any file.
On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Prithvi Diwanji
<prithvi.diwanji at druva.com> wrote:
> hello bill
> this worked for me.
> except for a little troubleshooting...
> headin1 is getting listed above the chapter title in the TOC.
> any idea how i can fix this?
>
> many thanks for all your time and help....
--
Bill Swallow
Twitter: @techcommdood
Blog: http://techcommdood.com
LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/techcommdood
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 09:18:39 -0700
From: "Sharon Burton" <sharon at anthrobytes.com>
To: "'Bill Swallow'" <techcommdood at gmail.com>, "'Prithvi Diwanji'"
<prithvi.diwanji at druva.com>
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: master pages for table of contents
Message-ID: <002301cc0364$7100c2f0$530248d0$@com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
If you have the Chapter name in a different text flow, it will appear later
in the TOC. Connect the text flows to fix it. See the Frame documentation
for more details.
sharon
Sharon Burton
Product Evangelist, Author-it
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Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 8:59 AM
To: Prithvi Diwanji
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: master pages for table of contents
You'll have the check your hierarchy and formatting of the TOC styles.
As for your previous question about layout, you apply master pages to
the TOC body pages just as you would with any file.
On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Prithvi Diwanji
<prithvi.diwanji at druva.com> wrote:
> hello bill
> this worked for me.
> except for a little troubleshooting...
> headin1 is getting listed above the chapter title in the TOC.
> any idea how i can fix this?
>
> many thanks for all your time and help....
--
Bill Swallow
Twitter: @techcommdood
Blog: http://techcommdood.com
LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/techcommdood
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 12:22:04 -0400
From: Stuart Rogers <srogers at phoenix-geophysics.com>
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Subject: Re: master pages for table of contents
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On 25/04/2011 11:59 AM, Bill Swallow wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Prithvi Diwanji
> <prithvi.diwanji at druva.com> wrote:
>> hello bill
>> this worked for me.
>> except for a little troubleshooting...
>> headin1 is getting listed above the chapter title in the TOC.
>> any idea how i can fix this?
>>
>> many thanks for all your time and help....
>
TOC entries occur in the order that FM finds them in the text flow. Is
your Chapter title in a separate text frame, or somehow arranged so that
it follows a Heading1 in the flow?
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Phoenix Geophysics Limited
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Toronto, ON, Canada M1W 3K5
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 12:31:55 -0400
From: Bill Swallow <techcommdood at gmail.com>
To: sharon at anthrobytes.com
Cc: Prithvi Diwanji <prithvi.diwanji at druva.com>,
framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: master pages for table of contents
Message-ID: <BANLkTinuHvnKq32xrGZ59dVL57btTdoZmg at mail.gmail.com>
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That's a very good point. I would never have thought to check if a
chapter name resided in a separate flow.
On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Sharon Burton <sharon at anthrobytes.com>
wrote:
> If you have the Chapter name in a different text flow, it will appear
later
> in the TOC. Connect the text flows to fix it. See the Frame documentation
> for more details.
--
Bill Swallow
Twitter: @techcommdood
Blog: http://techcommdood.com
LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/techcommdood
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