framers Digest, Vol 65, Issue 17

Venkan venkatesh.s at newgenimaging.com
Mon Mar 21 13:32:23 PDT 2011


Dear Sir,

Can anyone help me?

We can able to create the complete PDF (ie. all texts are viewing in the
PDF) in one machine only. Please advice how we rectify this for another
machine.

Venkan
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Email: venkatesh.s at newgenimaging.com; Skype: venkan20

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Slightly OT: Frame 10 landscape pages not recognised in
      Acrobat X (Michael M?ller-Hillebrand)
   2. Frame 10 save to Frame 8 files (Flato, Gillian)
   3. RE: Frame 10 save to Frame 8 files (Rick Quatro)
   4. ANN: FINALYSER 2011 Build 0041 for FrameMaker 10, Photoshop
      CS5,	... available (Georg Eck)
   5. Splitting tables across a page break: FM 8 (Helen Borrie)
   6. RE: Splitting tables across a page break: FM 8 (Owen, Clint)
   7. RE: Splitting tables across a page break: FM 8 (Helen Borrie)
   8. Re: Splitting tables across a page break: FM 8 (Helen Borrie)
   9. Re: Splitting tables across a page break: FM 8 (Steve Rickaby)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 18:25:51 +0100
From: Michael M?ller-Hillebrand <mmh at cap-studio.de>
To: Frame Users <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: Re: Slightly OT: Frame 10 landscape pages not recognised in
	Acrobat X
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Am 16.03.2011 um 15:59 schrieb Debra Laroche:

> It's a .tif file that's the corporate logo and until recently I had no
problem having it convert correctly from FrameMaker to PDF using the print
to .ps file (because of the landscape pages I have in several chapters of my
book).


Debar, recently I had the situation with a client that some graphic that was
working OK in FrameMaker 7 and earlier started to make problems in
FrameMaker 8+. The problem was a unusual encoding of some string inside that
EPS file, which came from FreeHand 3 or something else from the last
century. Resaving the EPS file in a current product version was the cure.

Maybe you can just re-save that TIF image using a current version of an
image editor and make sure to save it without LZW compression (this makes it
harder for apps to deal with the file) or anything that reads JPG (this
reduces quality). If the TIF is CMYK you could also try with converting to
RGB.

Try one thing at a time, so you/we know what was the source of the problem.

Good luck,

- Michael



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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 10:44:53 -0700
From: "Flato, Gillian" <gflato at nanometrics.com>
To: "framers at lists.frameusers.com" <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: Frame 10 save to Frame 8 files
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Can Frame 10 save to Frame 8 files. A colleague in England is telling me he
can only save down to Frame 9. Can anyone confirm this?

Thank you,


Gillian Flato
Technical Writer (Software)
nanometrics
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 14:02:59 -0400
From: "Rick Quatro" <rick at rickquatro.com>
To: "'Flato, Gillian'" <gflato at nanometrics.com>,
	<framers at lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: RE: Frame 10 save to Frame 8 files
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Hi Gillian,

 

I am using the beta version and it has a FrameMaker 8.0 save option. I am
not sure about the release version. However, have them save the document as
.MIF and you will be able to open it with 8.

 

Rick Quatro

Carmen Publishing Inc.

585-659-8267

rick at frameexpert.com

 

*** Frame Automation blog at http://frameautomation.com

 

 

 

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Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 1:45 PM
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Subject: Frame 10 save to Frame 8 files

 

Can Frame 10 save to Frame 8 files. A colleague in England is telling me he
can only save down to Frame 9. Can anyone confirm this? 

 

Thank you,

 

 

Gillian Flato

Technical Writer (Software)

nanometrics

1550 Buckeye Dr. 

Milpitas, CA. 95035

(408.545.6316

7  408.232.5911

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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 19:17:00 +0100
From: "Georg Eck" <eck at squidds.de>
To: <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: ANN: FINALYSER 2011 Build 0041 for FrameMaker 10, Photoshop
	CS5,	... available
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FINALYSER is an excellent collection of plug-ins AND scripts for
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For more information visit www.finalyser.com ... download the installer
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Register now and save money, then you will get more scripts for free
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 08:14:09 +1300
From: Helen Borrie <helebor at iinet.net.au>
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Splitting tables across a page break: FM 8
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Hi All,
In unstructured FM8, if I have a table that might split across a page break
if new content is added above it, is there a way that I can have a line of
text e.g., "...continued" inserted conditionally after the last entry on the
page, before the break?  Ideally, I would like to do this {whatever} with
all table formats that are defined in my template.

Any ideas welcome.
Helen



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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 12:58:13 -0700
From: "Owen, Clint" <Clint.Owen at craneaerospace.com>
To: <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: RE: Splitting tables across a page break: FM 8
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<CE6D1945BC24ED4B923A20CB128F45D80E9B5709 at lyncourier.aerospace.craneae.com>
	
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Helen,

You can insert the "Table Continuation" or "Table Sheet" variable in
your table title or table # paragraph.

Clint


Clint Owen | Sr. Technical Writer | Crane Aerospace & Electronics | +1
425 743 8674 | Fax: +1 425 743 8113

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To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Splitting tables across a page break: FM 8

Hi All,
In unstructured FM8, if I have a table that might split across a page
break if new content is added above it, is there a way that I can have a
line of text e.g., "...continued" inserted conditionally after the last
entry on the page, before the break?  Ideally, I would like to do this
{whatever} with all table formats that are defined in my template.

Any ideas welcome.
Helen

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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 09:16:54 +1300
From: Helen Borrie <helebor at iinet.net.au>
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Splitting tables across a page break: FM 8
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At 08:58 AM 17/03/2011, Owen, Clint wrote:
>Helen,
>
>You can insert the "Table Continuation" or "Table Sheet" variable in
>your table title or table # paragraph.

Ah, thanks, I hoped there'd be something like that!  Now to go back and
search the help again with the *right* key phrases. ;-) 

Cheers,
Helen



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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 20:16:31 +1300
From: Helen Borrie <helebor at iinet.net.au>
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Splitting tables across a page break: FM 8
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	<20110317071631.NPG19513.mta03.xtra.co.nz at dev1.mail.iinet.net.au>
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At 09:39 AM 17/03/2011, Jerilynne \"MamaRed\" Knight wrote:
>Hey there Helen
>
>Did you want the specific ROW to indicate continued or the table itself? If
the table itself, this approach will work. You insert the variable on the
title row on the first page. 

That is what I wanted but it seems there's not a way to do it.  My table
template doesn't have a "title row".  It has a table caption and then goes
right into the table, 2 cols with a column heading for each.  It is breaking
correctly, insofar as it observes the 2-orphan rule and also dups the
headings on the second sheet.  Just doesn't seem to be a way to put a
conditional "extraneous" row there.

>If you want something right after the row, I don't know of an automated
way...just the brute force way.

I want to avoid brute force, as I have a number of very long tables of the
glossary form, i.e., enumerations of class members, just an identifier and a
description and I want them to be consistent.

Thanks!
Helen



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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 09:12:28 +0000
From: Steve Rickaby <srickaby at wordmongers.demon.co.uk>
To: Helen Borrie <helebor at iinet.net.au>, framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Splitting tables across a page break: FM 8
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At 20:16 +1300 17/3/11, Helen Borrie wrote:

>That is what I wanted but it seems there's not a way to do it.  My table
template doesn't have a "title row".  It has a table caption and then goes
right into the table, 2 cols with a column heading for each.  It is breaking
correctly, insofar as it observes the 2-orphan rule and also dups the
headings on the second sheet.  Just doesn't seem to be a way to put a
conditional "extraneous" row there.

As I see it, you wanted a '...continued' line to be displayed *after* the
last row of a broken table on a page. Afaik there is no way to do this in
unstructured FrameMaker other than manually inserting text, with the
problems that will give you if text flows.

What you can do, as has been mentioned here already, is to use the table
continuation variable. FrameMaker will then display the text of the variable
in the running table titles that echo the title into which you insert it,
i.e. not at the point at which the table is broken, but in the table title
row(s) that follow it. This only works if your table has one or more title
rows.

To use the variable, set its text to what you want ('contd.',
'continued...', whatever), and insert it after the appropriate text in the
table title on the first page on which the table occurs. Note the FrameMaker
*only* displays the variable on continuation titles, so it will not be
displayed in the title row where you insert it. This looks like a bug when
you first use it, but is not.

If your table style does not have one or more title rows, I don't think you
can use the table continuation variable.

In theory you could put your 'continued' line in a footer on a new master
page, and then trigger that master page from a para tag in your table, but
that wouldn't be able to discriminate between tables that cross page
boundaries and those that didn't without the intervention of something like
FrameScript, so I'm stumped there. Maybe someone more ingenious than me
might think of a way to make this work.

-- 
Steve


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