Numbering problems in a book

[Fred Ridder]

What does the format definition for your "Figure No." cross-reference format look like? 
I'm guessing that it looks like "Figure <n>", which specifies the literal string you are seeing.
What it needs to look like is "Figure <$paranum>" or "Figure <$paranumonly>".
The "<n>" building block is only used in the Autonumbering properties of a paragraph format definition.
When you're referring to a numbered item in a cross-reference, you need to use the system variables that are presented in the Building Blocks list of the Edit Cross-Reference Format dialog. Anything you specify in that dialog that is not a system variable (all of which start with a $ character and are enclosed in angle brackets) is literal text that will appear in the cross-refernce results exactly as typed.
 
-Fred Ridder
 



From: andy.smith at wingedfeet.co.uk
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Numbering problems in a book
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 12:20:30 +0100










Thanks for this input and to the other replies that came back to me direct.
 
You're right Fred, I was working on the format <current page> of <total pages> and I have since found out about having to make a cross reference to the last document in the book. (As an aside, I'm stunned that a piece if software in its tenth iteration, costing over 900 Pounds, does not do this in a more direct way.)  I have to admit I've tried to stay away from cross references in the past as I've not trusted them but I now know that I need to tackle them for this purpose and for other features of the manual. However, I'm having trouble.
 
So I'm using FrameMaker 10 on Windows 7 and trying to insert cross references to a figure number.
 
I've followed the instructions, added the cross reference from the pod, chosen the Paragraph Tag (Figure n+) from the list, selected specific paragraph from the Paragraphs list and chosen the format 'Figure No.' from the Formats list.
 
When I click insert I get 'Figure <n>' instead of 'Figure 19'. I've tried saving it, updating references and even printing it but I can't get it to display the actual figure number.
 
As far as I can see I've done exactly what the online help says, checked the course notes from the training that I spent a fortune on and I've done a search of the web. Nothing gives any indication that I should be seeing this or how it should come out.
 
Does anybody have any suggestions because I'm beginning to lose faith in FrameMaker to ever do what it says?
 
Andy
 
 





From: Fred Ridder  
Sent: 04 April 2012 22:50
To: andy.smith at wingedfeet.co.uk
Subject: RE: Numbering problems in a book
 

If I correctly understand what you've written (and I must say it is a bit confusing...), your real problem is that you want to use page numbering of the form 
  <current page> of <total pages>
Is that correct? If so, I think you've implemented it incorrectly because the provided page count system variable is indeed on a file-by-file basis. What you need to do is put a marker on the last page of the last file in the book, and use a cross-reference to that marker from the master pages in each chapter file. 
 
The conflict warnings should not be a continuing issue as long as you are saving all of the chapter files after doing the book update, because the numbering that is generated in the book is rippled down into the chapter files. 
  




From: andy.smith at wingedfeet.co.uk
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Numbering problems in a book
Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 16:59:54 +0100

Hi
 
Frame 10, Windows 7, 
 
Is there some esoteric secret to getting the numbering to behave in a book? I've been bitten by this before so I've been quite careful this time only to access the numbering dialog through the book window. Despite that I still get a warning of conflicts between numbering in the book and in the document. Then I find that when I set the numbering for pages and paragraphs they rarely stick. I'm running update book but I'm wondering if there is something else that I'm missing. At the moment my document is showing the page numbers following on from each chapter into the next but the total number of pages is showing the number of pages in the chapter rather than the total number of pages in the book. 
 
I seem to have a lot of trouble getting this to work and considering FrameMaker's reputation for stability once it's set up it doesn't seem to be very reliable.
 
 
Andy W. Smith
England.


 
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