framers Digest, Vol 86, Issue 15

Wed Dec 19 11:48:31 PST 2012

Thanks to Nadine. He suggestion of Right-clicking on the frame, go to
Object Properties, and 
turn the side head off and turn the columns for that page on worked.

Thank you,
David

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: FrameMaker 11 - Stability / Crashing on Save.. Help
      (Roger Shuttleworth)
   2. Re: Cross-reference to a previous file (Roger Shuttleworth)
   3. Re: Rucksprung durch Technik: reverse hyperjump key?
      (rebecca officer)
   4. Index not generating as expected (David Millis)
   5. Re: Index not generating as expected (Writer)

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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 13:55:21 -0500
From: Roger Shuttleworth <shuttie27 at gmail.com>
To: matt at mattrsullivan.com
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: FrameMaker 11 - Stability / Crashing on Save.. Help
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Hi Matt

I've been using DITA-FMx to generate a book from a ditamap. Because the
book is divided into parts, the generation process uses a template for
each "divider" file. It is this template file that I was tweaking. When
it works, it creates separate book components for the dividers as well
as the chapters. I do now have a working set, but only because I have
taken my tweaks so far. Having saved each "good" tweak into a new file,
I can quickly revert to a good copy when an extra tweak breaks things. 
Life on the edge!

I know that if I make the slightest modification to the text frame on a
master page in that particular template file, it will crash FM when I
generate from the map using DITA-FMx (always). Or sometimes when I make
the tweak, save the file, and close it. It is this last factor that
makes we wonder whether it is a native FM problem or a DITA-FMx probem -
or if somehow my file becomes corrupted at some point in the generation
process.

Roger

On 13/12/2012 1:15 PM, Matt Sullivan wrote:
> Hi Roger,
>
> Are you working with ditamaps or with FM book components?
>
> I was able to work almost flawlessly with ditamaps for the FM11 
> reviewer's guide, but only produced the FM book components at the end 
> for the PDF production and/or linking to RH for EPUB output.
>
> IIRC, the FM components seemed to be much less stable.
>
>
> /-Matt/
>
> *Matt Sullivan*
> /technical communication | online training | eLearning/
> *
> **twitter: *@mattrsullivan <http://twitter.com/mattrsullivan>
> *phone:* 714 960-6840
>
> On Dec 13, 2012, at 9:26 AM, Roger Shuttleworth <shuttie27 at gmail.com 
> <mailto:shuttie27 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>> It may be a DITA-FMx problem or it may be a native FM problem. We've 
>> reproduced it on two machines, both with DITA-FMx installed. 
>> Interesting that the OP mentioned master page changes in his
process...
>

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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 14:00:34 -0500
From: Roger Shuttleworth <shuttie27 at gmail.com>
To: "framers at lists.frameusers.com" <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: Re: Cross-reference to a previous file
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Thanks to David, Lin, and Robert for replies to my question about 
picking up a paratext from a previous file in a book and displaying it 
in a running header/footer. It appears that FM will not do this.

To David: No, I can't use the Volume building block because it is 
already in use.
To Robert: I can't incorporate my "divider" page into the beginning of a

chapter because I am generating output from a ditamap.
To Lin: Thanks for the suggestion of using a crossref. I could do this, 
but it would need to be replaced each time I generate the output from a 
ditamap. That's just because of the way it works (using one template for

all chapters in the book).

So I will have to do without it. Thanks for your help. You have at least

saved me from trying to get it to work when it won't.

Roger

On 12/12/2012 9:11 AM, David Artman wrote:
> |From: Lin Sims <ljsims.ml at gmail.com>
> |Date: Tue, December 11, 2012 8:20 pm
> |
> |Where I work, we have a sort-of-similar issue, and we solved it by
> |using cross-references. It means you'll have to remember to check
that
> |you're pointing to the right files if you add any new ones in, but it
> |beats typing everything in (and you'd have to manually update that
> |way, too).
>
> Lin, wouldn't that make it into a link, after PDFing? I'm assuming
that
> one wants other xrefs to be live links and so one leaves that option
> checked in PDF Settings. If xrefs aren't automatically being made into
> links, that would work fine.
>
> Roger, can't you use the Volume value at the book level on the
files(s)
> and then use that building block in the H/F? Or have you already used
> that building block for other purposes?
>
> As a final, hacky solution, you could make a super-stripped file (I
use
> MIF editing to kill, like, EVERY catalog I can) and then have one of
> those files for each part, in which you define a Variable to carry the
> H/F text? That way, you could still use book-wide variables (in
another
> blank file or in your main template) to apply "major" Variables and
the
> part-level blank file to apply "minor" variables afterwards. Kind of
> manual, but not nearly so much as other methods.
>
> [I don't have/use FM9+, but it seems like setting the parts up as
> books-in-a-book would let you access other Numbering properties
> (Section, Sub-Section). So your 'part' text would be the "Chapter"
> values--with their para styles handling numbering via
autonumbering--and
> then "Section" would handle your 'chapter' numbering in the
> book-in-book.]
>
> HTH;
> David

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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 09:45:14 +1300
From: "rebecca officer" <rebecca.officer at alliedtelesis.co.nz>
To: "Yves Barbion" <yves.barbion at gmail.com>,	"Steve Rickaby"
	<srickaby at wordmongers.demon.co.uk>
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Rucksprung durch Technik: reverse hyperjump key?
Message-ID: <50CAF52A0200003800051927 at gwia.alliedtelesyn.co.nz>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

For old versions like v7, Shlomo's ToolbarPlusExpress adds a back button
to the toolbar, among many, many useful buttons.
http://www.microtype.com/resources.html 

This plugin is one of the things I miss the most since we upgraded! It's
only $25/licence too.

Cheers
Rebecca

>>> Steve Rickaby <srickaby at wordmongers.demon.co.uk> 14/12/12 06:02 >>>
At 16:09 +0100 13/12/12, Yves Barbion wrote:

>Try the following:
>
>1.Hold down CTRL+ALT and click a cross-reference to jump to the target,
which is in a different file in the book.
>2.Hold down CTRL and press the TAB key to jump back to the source of
the cross-reference.
>
>Does this work?

On my ancient (v 7) version, sadly, no. I maybe should have mentioned,
the link destinations are in a table. The CNTRL+TAB does do something -
it advances to the cell below. In open text, it does nothing.

(I'm on Mac).

-- 
Steve [Trim e-mails: use less disk, use less power, use less planet]
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 12:46:52 -0500
From: "David Millis" <David.Millis at DrakeSoftware.com>
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Subject: Index not generating as expected
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Hello Framers,

The master page for my Index looks correct. In other words, it's a two
column page with no side head. When I generate my book, the Index
displays with a 1.5 inch side head. I copied the entire book from last
year's project, where the Index still generates as I'd like (2 columns,
no side head). I've compared the master pages for the two projects and
they look the same to me.

Does anyone have a suggestion please as to how I can remove the side
head from the Index pages for the new project?

I'm using Frame 7.2 on a Windows 7 (32 bit) machine.

Thank you in advance for your assistance.

David Millis
Drake Software 

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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 08:57:49 -0800 (PST)
From: Writer <generic668 at yahoo.ca>
To: David Millis <David.Millis at DrakeSoftware.com>,
	"framers at lists.frameusers.com" <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: Re: Index not generating as expected
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I have had a similar problem in the past where the first page of the
index wouldn't format into columns, but anything past the first page
would. In that case, this is what I did:

On the body page of the first page of the index, hold the CTRL key down
and select the frame.

Right-click on the frame.

Choose Object Properties.

In the dialog box that appears, you should be able to turn the side head
off and turn the columns for that page on.

Nadine

>Hello Framers,
>?
>The master page for my Index looks correct. In other words, it?s a two
column page with no side head. When I generate my book, the Index
displays with a 1.5 inch side head. I copied the entire book from last
year?s project, where the Index still generates as I?d like (2 columns,
no side head). I?ve compared the master pages for the two projects and
they look the same to me.
>?
>Does anyone have a suggestion please as to how I can remove the side
head from the Index pages for the new project?
>?
>I?m using Frame 7.2 on a Windows 7 (32 bit) machine.
>?
>Thank you in advance for your assistance.
>?
>David Millis
>Drake Software 
>
>
>?
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