framers Digest, Vol 81, Issue 13 ** Use Mif2Go for broken link checking **
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Finding broken links in a PDF (Jeremy H. Griffith)
2. Re: Advanced FrameMaker online Training (David Creamer)
3. Re: Finding broken links in a PDF (An Update!) (Lin Sims)
4. Re: Finding broken links in a PDF (An Update!) (Lin Sims)
5. Re: Finding broken links in a PDF (An Update!) (Scott Prentice)
6. Re: Support needed! (Doris Pavlichek)
7. Re: Finding broken links in a PDF (Robert Lauriston)
8. about the paragraph object Pgf (Amy Zhao)
9. RE: about the paragraph object Pgf (Combs, Richard)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 12:47:39 -0500
From: "Jeremy H. Griffith" <jeremy at omsys.com>
To: Frame Users <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: Re: Finding broken links in a PDF
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On Thu, 12 Jul 2012 11:50:41 -0400, Lin Sims <ljsims.ml at gmail.com> wrote:
>Has Adobe added a tool for finding broken links in a PDF yet? If so,
>where is it? One of my coworkers is looking at a document that is
>umpty-pages long with even umptier numbers of links. It just isn't
>possible to find and click all of them to see if they all work, and
>work as intended. As I recall, the lack of a tool like this has been a
>long-standing issue with Acrobat, and I was kinda hoping they'd fixed
>it by now.
>
>(For reference, the files are structured FrameMaker being saved as PDF
>from a book file created using Leximation's DITA-FMx plugin, and it's
>Adobe Acrobat X.)
Hi Lin! Link checking is built in to Mif2Go for HTML conversions; it
produces an error report in Frame that links to every error it finds. See
the User's Guide, par. 5.1.5, "Checking for broken links in HTML or XML
output". It doesn't matter that the output in this case is PDF; just run an
HTML project using default settings, which takes a minute or two, and check
the report.
Since you don't need usable HTML output for this to work, you can just use
the free unlimited demo version. Just one of the many free perks (like
runfm and Wash via MIF) we've built in to Mif2Go.
On the new Web site, <http://mif2go.com>, you need to register first, then
after activation you can download. Be sure and put something related to
Frame or Mif2Go in the bio field; that's how we sort out real signups from
the frequent spammer attempts. We've had to exclude gmail and hotmail
addresses for the same reason...
HTH!
-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
<jeremy at omsys.com> http://mif2go.com/
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 12:06:21 -0700
From: "David Creamer" <IDEASlists at IDEAStraining.com>
To: <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: Re: Advanced FrameMaker online Training
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Hello Trischa,
I provide online training for all levels of FrameMaker. Please contact me
for additional info.
David Creamer
IDEAS Training
http://www.ideastraining.com
Adobe Authorized Instructor & Certified Expert since 1995 Offering training
for Acrobat, InDesign, InCopy, Photoshop, Illustrator, Dreamweaver, Premiere
Pro, FrameMaker, Captivate, Fireworks, & PageMaker.
Authorized FrameMaker Consultant with Frame Technologies since 1991.
Authorized QuarkXPress Instructor and Certified Expert since 1988 Microsoft
Office training, including Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Access, and more
Authorized FileMaker Instructor Authorized PitStop Pro Instructor Authorized
FlightCheck Instructor
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Hi All,
I am looking for Framemaker training ( online). Looking for training for
intermediate to advanced level. Appreciate if anyone could let me know of
such a training.
Thanks,
Trischa
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 17:14:09 -0400
From: Lin Sims <ljsims.ml at gmail.com>
To: Frame Users <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: Re: Finding broken links in a PDF (An Update!)
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I think I've discovered (at least part of) the issue.
The links are actually there. What's happening is that instead of the PDF
hotspot covering the entirety of the text being wrapped in the xref or
fm-xref tag, it's forming as a little tiny spot to the left of the visible
text. I suspect this is the same thing that happens with xrefs to table
footnotes, although at the moment I'm not remembering the why.
Tomorrow I'm going to take a look at the files this is happening in to see
if my coworkers are using the same elements in cases where it works versus
where it doesn't work, whether the attributes are different, etc. I'm pretty
new to structured Frame/DITA in general, so digging into this ought to be
fun. :)
HOWEVER!!! If anyone has already seen this issue and knows the cause and a
fix, feel free to let me know. I love to figure things out, but I hate
reinventing the wheel! (Meantime, off to Google!)
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Lin Sims <ljsims.ml at gmail.com> wrote:
> Has Adobe added a tool for finding broken links in a PDF yet? If so,
> where is it? One of my coworkers is looking at a document that is
> umpty-pages long with even umptier numbers of links. It just isn't
> possible to find and click all of them to see if they all work, and
> work as intended. As I recall, the lack of a tool like this has been a
> long-standing issue with Acrobat, and I was kinda hoping they'd fixed
> it by now.
>
> (For reference, the files are structured FrameMaker being saved as PDF
> from a book file created using Leximation's DITA-FMx plugin, and it's
> Adobe Acrobat X.)
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> Lin Sims
--
Lin Sims
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 17:21:52 -0400
From: Lin Sims <ljsims.ml at gmail.com>
To: Frame Users <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: Re: Finding broken links in a PDF (An Update!)
Message-ID:
<CA+MomCj5U-KKqUaevZOwhpjvpkVS+uRy3NT7OsnwbWZV7Wa-rQ at mail.gmail.com>
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And, of course, as soon as I sent this I remembered: the hotspot works
up until the point in the text where you've added a character tag or
something that changes the format. Now, that's in unstructured, but
I'm wondering if they've wrapped the part where the link breaks in
another element or something. I shall be investigating more
tomorrow....
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Lin Sims <ljsims.ml at gmail.com> wrote:
> I think I've discovered (at least part of) the issue.
>
> The links are actually there. What's happening is that instead of the
> PDF hotspot covering the entirety of the text being wrapped in the
> xref or fm-xref tag, it's forming as a little tiny spot to the left of
> the visible text. I suspect this is the same thing that happens with
> xrefs to table footnotes, although at the moment I'm not remembering
> the why.
>
> Tomorrow I'm going to take a look at the files this is happening in to
> see if my coworkers are using the same elements in cases where it
> works versus where it doesn't work, whether the attributes are
> different, etc. I'm pretty new to structured Frame/DITA in general, so
> digging into this ought to be fun. :)
>
> HOWEVER!!! If anyone has already seen this issue and knows the cause
> and a fix, feel free to let me know. I love to figure things out, but
> I hate reinventing the wheel! (Meantime, off to Google!)
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Lin Sims <ljsims.ml at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Has Adobe added a tool for finding broken links in a PDF yet? If so,
>> where is it? One of my coworkers is looking at a document that is
>> umpty-pages long with even umptier numbers of links. It just isn't
>> possible to find and click all of them to see if they all work, and
>> work as intended. As I recall, the lack of a tool like this has been a
>> long-standing issue with Acrobat, and I was kinda hoping they'd fixed
>> it by now.
>>
>> (For reference, the files are structured FrameMaker being saved as PDF
>> from a book file created using Leximation's DITA-FMx plugin, and it's
>> Adobe Acrobat X.)
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> --
>> Lin Sims
>
>
>
> --
> Lin Sims
--
Lin Sims
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 14:49:21 -0700
From: Scott Prentice <sp10 at leximation.com>
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Finding broken links in a PDF (An Update!)
Message-ID: <4FFF4661.3030604 at leximation.com>
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Hi Lin...
Note that there are a few settings in DITA-FMx that enable hypertext in
a PDF.
First, in the main DITA Options dialog, there's an "Add Hypertext
Markers to External Xrefs" option. This is for xref/@scope="external"
xrefs .. links to URLs or content outside of the scope of the DITA
files. You probably want this to be enabled.
Then, in the Book Build Settings dialog (button in the Options dialog),
there's the "Convert Xrefs/Links into Hyperlinks" option. Also probably
want this enabled. There's a difference between xrefs and fm-xrefs.
Xrefs are "DITA" cross-refs that are just plain text links .. no
formatting. If you want these to be clickable in a PDF, you must enable
the option. Fm-xrefs are "FrameMaker" cross-refs which make use of
FrameMaker's formatted references .. these will become clickable links
in PDFs by default. Both are stored as xref elements in the underlying
DITA file, but the fm-xrefs convert when open in FM.
You may want to use the dita-fmx-users Yahoo group for DITA-FMx related
questions.
Cheers,
...scott
Scott Prentice
Leximation, Inc.
www.leximation.com
+1.415.485.1892
On 7/12/12 2:21 PM, Lin Sims wrote:
> And, of course, as soon as I sent this I remembered: the hotspot works
> up until the point in the text where you've added a character tag or
> something that changes the format. Now, that's in unstructured, but
> I'm wondering if they've wrapped the part where the link breaks in
> another element or something. I shall be investigating more
> tomorrow....
>
> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Lin Sims<ljsims.ml at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I think I've discovered (at least part of) the issue.
>>
>> The links are actually there. What's happening is that instead of the
>> PDF hotspot covering the entirety of the text being wrapped in the
>> xref or fm-xref tag, it's forming as a little tiny spot to the left of
>> the visible text. I suspect this is the same thing that happens with
>> xrefs to table footnotes, although at the moment I'm not remembering
>> the why.
>>
>> Tomorrow I'm going to take a look at the files this is happening in to
>> see if my coworkers are using the same elements in cases where it
>> works versus where it doesn't work, whether the attributes are
>> different, etc. I'm pretty new to structured Frame/DITA in general, so
>> digging into this ought to be fun. :)
>>
>> HOWEVER!!! If anyone has already seen this issue and knows the cause
>> and a fix, feel free to let me know. I love to figure things out, but
>> I hate reinventing the wheel! (Meantime, off to Google!)
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Lin Sims<ljsims.ml at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Has Adobe added a tool for finding broken links in a PDF yet? If so,
>>> where is it? One of my coworkers is looking at a document that is
>>> umpty-pages long with even umptier numbers of links. It just isn't
>>> possible to find and click all of them to see if they all work, and
>>> work as intended. As I recall, the lack of a tool like this has been a
>>> long-standing issue with Acrobat, and I was kinda hoping they'd fixed
>>> it by now.
>>>
>>> (For reference, the files are structured FrameMaker being saved as PDF
>>> from a book file created using Leximation's DITA-FMx plugin, and it's
>>> Adobe Acrobat X.)
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> --
>>> Lin Sims
>>
>>
>> --
>> Lin Sims
>
>
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 23:14:43 -0400
From: Doris Pavlichek <dpavlichek at opnet.com>
To: "<laura at lavadome.net>" <laura at lavadome.net>
Cc: "<framers at lists.frameusers.com>" <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: Re: Support needed!
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Laura,
I wrote to you privately, but I wanted to add something that, while
anecdotal, is relevant.
For a very large (100+ pages) document for my capstone course, I am running
into many issues of Word 2011 on a MacBook Pro running Lion crashing. It
gives me an error saying that my disk isn't inserted properly (a really
ludicrous error). The document has a few graphics, a ToC, and a low-overhead
template. There is no reason for it to crash, but it does.
The only way I have found to avoid the error is to force quit the app and
work on sections of the doc in smaller chunks, which we will knit together
at the end.
I can't fathom trying to use Word for product doc unless you did so in very
small files. Even then...
Doris E. Pavlichek
Dpavlichek62 at gmail.com
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 10, 2012, at 3:57 AM, <laura at lavadome.net> wrote:
> Dear all
>
> Please tell me I'm not going mad or being unreasonable.
>
> Have just come into work to find that the company which acquired us a few
months ago wants me to use Powerpoint for creating datasheets instead of
InDesign (definite) and "a more flexible tool" (Word) instead of our beloved
Framemaker (proposed).
>
> I could cry. I am the only tech author in the company of about 100 people
and the marketing department used PP for datasheets which they say is
"adequate" for the job. This all arose on Friday when someone else needed to
edit a version of my ID files when I was on holiday. Now I come in to find:
>
> "...For more technical documentation (e.g. product manuals) then I
understand the argument for use of a more specialist tool - but even here we
can use more flexible tools."
>
> Such as????? I have long user guides with masses of conditional text. Just
let Word have a shot at that. In fact, they were trying to do just that
before I started this job 4 years ago - and it wasn't working.
>
> Sorry to clog up the forum with this but I think of you all as friends who
feel the same way about FM as I do.
>
> How do I persuade them otherwise? In fact, it's just one person really I
think I need to convince - not in my office.
>
> I can just about cope with datasheets in PP but using anything other than
Frame for long user guides is unthinkable.
>
> L
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 10:07:01 -0700
From: Robert Lauriston <robert at lauriston.com>
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Finding broken links in a PDF
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A free option might be to set up DITA to generate Web help and use one
of the many free HTML link checkers.
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 8:50 AM, Lin Sims <ljsims.ml at gmail.com> wrote:
> Has Adobe added a tool for finding broken links in a PDF yet? If so,
> where is it? One of my coworkers is looking at a document that is
> umpty-pages long with even umptier numbers of links. It just isn't
> possible to find and click all of them to see if they all work, and
> work as intended. As I recall, the lack of a tool like this has been a
> long-standing issue with Acrobat, and I was kinda hoping they'd fixed
> it by now.
>
> (For reference, the files are structured FrameMaker being saved as PDF
> from a book file created using Leximation's DITA-FMx plugin, and it's
> Adobe Acrobat X.)
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 16:02:07 -0700
From: Amy Zhao <amyzhao at marvell.com>
To: "framers at lists.frameusers.com" <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: about the paragraph object Pgf
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Hi,
A very basic question.
Does this object (Pgf) indicate just regular paragraph, paragraph made up of
texts, or it has broader meaning, like sections including paragraphs and
tables?
Thanks for any help.
Amy
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 21:03:27 -0700
From: "Combs, Richard" <richard.combs at Polycom.com>
To: Amy Zhao <amyzhao at marvell.com>, "framers at lists.frameusers.com"
<framers at lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: RE: about the paragraph object Pgf
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Amy Zhao wrote:
> A very basic question.
> Does this object (Pgf) indicate just regular paragraph, paragraph made
> up of texts, or it has broader meaning, like sections including
> paragraphs and tables?
> Thanks for any help.
Umm, I think you're going to have to provide a lot more context.
Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
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