Disappearing Text in Anchored Frames

[Combs, Richard]

If I had scrolled down, I'd have seen that Rick beat me to it. And remembered the runaround issue, which I forgot. Oh, well, at least now you know at least two people have the same advice. :)

From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Rick Quatro
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 6:02 PM
To: Joseph.Carver at vsea.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Disappearing Text in Anchored Frames

Hi Joe,

Pretty bizarre, but I just verified the behavior with my copy of FrameMaker 10. For what it's worth, it doesn't happen in the last beta version of FrameMaker 11.

Note, however, that doing multi-line callouts this way is not really the best approach. When you press the Enter key, you are actually creating a separate Text Line object for each subsequent line. This can cause maintenance headaches later if you want to edit the callouts or change their formatting characteristics. You are better off using a Text Frame so that you can apply a paragraph format to the callouts. This will allow you to easily control all of the formatting for the callouts.

There is one thing to be aware of when adding Text Frame callouts to anchored frames where the callouts will be on top of an imported graphic: make sure you select the imported image, right-click, and choose Runaround Properties. In the resulting dialog box, choose Don't Run Around and click Set. Otherwise, you may find your callouts "overflowing" their Text Frames. In my opinion, this should be the default setting for imported images, but for some reason it is not.

Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. Thank you very much.

Rick

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-283-5045
rick at frameexpert.com<mailto:rick at frameexpert.com>



From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Joseph.Carver at vsea.com<mailto:Joseph.Carver at vsea.com>
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 10:19 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers at lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: Disappearing Text in Anchored Frames

  Greetings Experts,

Frame 10.0.2.419

Windows 7 & XP

Text placed into an anchored frame that has a carriage return loses the first character when the doc is saved.

Actions:
        1) Create anchored frame
        2) Import a graphic or two
        3) Label the graphic
                >> Graphics
               >> Tools
               >> Click the "A"
               >> Position cursor
               >> Type some text
               >> Hit Enter key
                >> Type another line
                >> Save doc
                        >> First character vaporizes from "another line"

Consistently across two versions of Windows, and on a few different machines, the first character of the second line simply disappears.
Saving the doc. triggers the action.
If additional lines are added with a carriage return, they too will lose that first character when the doc. is saved.
This does not occur with Frame 8. It is very repeatable.

Are there any workarounds for this, or is it just a known "feature"?


Thanks in advance for time, replies and interest.

Best Regards
Joe Carver

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