switch between 8.5x11 and A4 sized pages within the same book?

[Alison Craig]

I always have to check page breaks (or reasonable text flow might be the better description) as I create 3 different PDFs off the conditional source files - and I only have Chapter and Appendix headings set to top of page, so that isn't a problem.

I know printed copies from PDFs are almost quaint these days - but hard copy is Regulatory fact of life in the Medical Device industry.

Alison

From: Peter Hirons [mailto:peter at galley.ie]
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 10:34 AM
To: Alison Craig; 'Writer'; 'Lise Bible'; 'Post Framers'
Subject: RE: switch between 8.5x11 and A4 sized pages within the same book?

The nearest ISO (Note: International Standards organisation - not just European) size is A3, which just happens to be twice the area of A4.  That's approx. 11.5 x 16.5 inches (exactly 297 x 420 mm).  If I had to deal with that and your quaint tabloid size I'd set up a custom size of  11 x 16.5.

I agree that Nadine's suggestion of two templates is probably best if you have time to work through each document every time you change to check that there aren't any unfortunate page breaks.  Sensible use of "keep with next" instead of hard "top of page" settings can help of course.

Peter

From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Alison Craig
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 6:11 PM
To: Writer; Lise Bible; Post Framers
Subject: RE: switch between 8.5x11 and A4 sized pages within the same book?

Here's a "what if" scenario to layer on top of the Letter vs A4 sizing issue (clever solution Nadine - I'll keep that in mind for my Service Manual)...

What if you also had to switch from US to UK spelling when you switched from Letter to A4? What would be the most straightforward way to handle that?

Also, does anyone know the equivalent custom paper size "fudge" for switching between Tabloid (11x17) and the closest European paper size?

Alison

From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Writer
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 8:44 AM
To: Lise Bible; Post Framers
Subject: Re: switch between 8.5x11 and A4 sized pages within the same book?

You could try creating two separate templates (in FM files that are separate from the book and separate from each other). One template file is 8.5 x 11, and the other is A4. Both can contain all other attributes (paragraph styles, character styles, colour definitions, etc). Apply the first template when you want to create a PDF for the US market. Once that's complete, apply the second template to the book to create the PDF for the European market.

Alternatively, you could use a processor that ignores your FM settings (that is, you would set up all your formatting in the processor), and then generate two different outputs.

Nadine

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From: Lise Bible <rentagoodbook at gmail.com<mailto:rentagoodbook at gmail.com>>
To: Post Framers <framers at lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers at lists.frameusers.com>>
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 10:57:12 AM
Subject: switch between 8.5x11 and A4 sized pages within the same book?

Fellow Framers,
I'm mostly a lurker, but have found the wealth of knowledge shared by this list's members to be quite helpful!

I have a manual (I'm on Frame 8) in which I've used conditional text to show/hide tables, text, parts lists depending on if it's for the American market or European.
This manual originated for a US-made product so it started life with 8.5x11 (US-letter size) pages. And it didn't even occur to me that it might need to be A4-sized for the European market.

Is there a good way to switch back and forth between A4 and 8.5x11 page sizes, depending on which version of a book you want to print?

I have the sneaking suspicion that I will have to break this into two separate books, but I figured I'd ask to see if anyone had recommendations.

Thanks,
Lise
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