Frame > Word > Frame -- is there a way to do this w/o going nuts?

Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com
Wed Jan 30 07:25:31 PST 2013


A couple of points....

   - I wouldn't work with the Word files at all if you have any other
   options. RTF would be the way to go.
   - You should have the option to open the RTFs in Frame using the
   Japanese RTF import filter. It's more robust than the English RTF filter.
   Try that...
   - You're two frame releases behind current, and the import filters
   seemed (to me, at least) to have been updated. You should at least download
   the FM11 eval version and see if that makes a difference, or find someone
   with current versions to test for you.
   - You also have another option... Output from Word to PDF, and then save
   that out from Acrobat to RTF. Not saying it'll make much difference or what
   the formatting will look like, but it's an option to look at.


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On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 6:27 PM, Tori Muir <tmuir at spot-on-creative.com>
wrote:
> We've been maintaining a set of engineering specs for a client for >10
> years. The documents are large, 300+ page multi-chapter books, with header
> autonumbering that goes to 8 levels. About a year ago, client requested we
> give them the Frame content for one spec in Word so they could do some
> extensive edits. We did, and had not heard from them since. They contacted
> us 2 weeks ago, asking us to reformat the document. They'd compiled all
the
> chapters into one 450-page Word doc and done 2-3 major revisions over the
> last year, all editing done by engineers and other folks with no expertise
> in long-document work.  It's a bit of a mess.
>
> Now they want us to re-convert it into Frame. What would the recommended
> workflow be? We want to do this as cost-efficiently as possible for the
> client, but also keep our Frame template pristine and the data clean.
>
> - We tried opening the Word doc (and  sub-sections thereof) in Frame (v9),
> but Frame crashes.
>
> - We have saved selected chunks of the Word doc to RTF and imported to
> Frame. On the plus side, paragraph formatting comes in OK, and tables are
> tables (there are a bazillion tables). On the minus side, paragraphs with
> TOC references get split into two, one empty one with the reference
marker,
> then one with the text. This is a significant issue in a manual whose TOC
> includes all 8 levels of the aforementioned autonumbered headers. Plus the
> dreaded missing-font message occurs, and I hate trying to track that down.
> And I'm a bit uneasy about corrupted cross references and other metadata
> that have been round-tripped thru Word, had bad experiences with that.
>
> - We can also just blow the Word file out to plain text and reformat.
> Painful, but our Frame template remains clean that way. Or maybe a hybrid
> approach where we RTF the Word document, then use that to copy tables from
> (formatting them is time-consuming), and import the rest as plain text...
>
> Recommendations?
>
> Tori Muir
> tmuir at spot-on-creative.com | 650.430.8674
> www.spot-on-creative.com
>
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