Frame > Word > Frame -- is there a way to do this w/o going nuts?

[Shmuel Wolfson]

To avoid crashing when importing, remove some or all of the pictures 
before importing the file.

Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson
052-763-7133

On 30-Jan-13 9:32 PM, Tori Muir wrote:
> Thanks to all who replied, it's genuinely good to know there isn't a 
> magically simple way to do this that I was unaware of.  If the import 
> filters are more robust, we definitely should look into upgrading -- 
> we hadn't so far because as non-structured users we hadn't seen any 
> must-have features in v10 or v11.
>
> Onward!
>
> Tori Muir
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> On 1/30/13 7:25 AM, Art Campbell wrote:
>> A couple of points....
>>
>>   * I wouldn't work with the Word files at all if you have any other
>>     options. RTF would be the way to go.
>>   * You should have the option to open the RTFs in Frame using the
>>     Japanese RTF import filter. It's more robust than the English RTF
>>     filter. Try that...
>>   * You're two frame releases behind current, and the import filters
>>     seemed (to me, at least) to have been updated. You should at
>>     least download the FM11 eval version and see if that makes a
>>     difference, or find someone with current versions to test for you.
>>   * You also have another option... Output from Word to PDF, and then
>>     save that out from Acrobat to RTF. Not saying it'll make much
>>     difference or what the formatting will look like, but it's an
>>     option to look at.
>>
>>
>> Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com <mailto:art.campbell at gmail.com>
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>> On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 6:27 PM, Tori Muir 
>> <tmuir at spot-on-creative.com <mailto:tmuir at spot-on-creative.com>> wrote:
>> > We've been maintaining a set of engineering specs for a client for >10
>> > years. The documents are large, 300+ page multi-chapter books, with 
>> header
>> > autonumbering that goes to 8 levels. About a year ago, client 
>> requested we
>> > give them the Frame content for one spec in Word so they could do some
>> > extensive edits. We did, and had not heard from them since. They 
>> contacted
>> > us 2 weeks ago, asking us to reformat the document. They'd compiled 
>> all the
>> > chapters into one 450-page Word doc and done 2-3 major revisions 
>> over the
>> > last year, all editing done by engineers and other folks with no 
>> expertise
>> > in long-document work.  It's a bit of a mess.
>> >
>> > Now they want us to re-convert it into Frame. What would the 
>> recommended
>> > workflow be? We want to do this as cost-efficiently as possible for the
>> > client, but also keep our Frame template pristine and the data clean.
>> >
>> > - We tried opening the Word doc (and  sub-sections thereof) in 
>> Frame (v9),
>> > but Frame crashes.
>> >
>> > - We have saved selected chunks of the Word doc to RTF and imported to
>> > Frame. On the plus side, paragraph formatting comes in OK, and 
>> tables are
>> > tables (there are a bazillion tables). On the minus side, 
>> paragraphs with
>> > TOC references get split into two, one empty one with the reference 
>> marker,
>> > then one with the text. This is a significant issue in a manual 
>> whose TOC
>> > includes all 8 levels of the aforementioned autonumbered headers. 
>> Plus the
>> > dreaded missing-font message occurs, and I hate trying to track 
>> that down.
>> > And I'm a bit uneasy about corrupted cross references and other 
>> metadata
>> > that have been round-tripped thru Word, had bad experiences with that.
>> >
>> > - We can also just blow the Word file out to plain text and reformat.
>> > Painful, but our Frame template remains clean that way. Or maybe a 
>> hybrid
>> > approach where we RTF the Word document, then use that to copy 
>> tables from
>> > (formatting them is time-consuming), and import the rest as plain 
>> text...
>> >
>> > Recommendations?
>> >
>> > Tori Muir
>> > tmuir at spot-on-creative.com <mailto:tmuir at spot-on-creative.com> | 
>> 650.430.8674
>> > www.spot-on-creative.com <http://www.spot-on-creative.com>
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