Font issues

Chris Coggins cacoggins at gmail.com
Sat Jul 20 08:34:25 PDT 2013


I'm not sure it will help any, but here are a couple more graphics to show
what fonts are embedded and in use in the two documents. I'm on XP with
Frame 10 and Acrobat X Pro.

Times New Roman is installed in the system fonts directory, and Adobe PDF
is set as the default printer.


On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 9:42 AM, Art Campbell <art.campbell at gmail.com>wrote:

> In addition to Mike's excellent analysis... depending on the age and type
> of system the original was created on, it's quite possible that the font
> whatever it is (and I agree with Mike, it ain's TNR), is a system font,
> from Apple, Windows XP, or some other vendor. For instance, if your FM tag
> calls for Time, Times NR, or another vendor's version would be substituted
> if Times isn't available -- and vice versa -- if TNR isn't available,
> something will be substituted.
>
> Second... if you have Acrobat, you should be able to see what font is in
> use for a passage, what fonts are embedded, the type of system the file was
> built on and other info about how it was created. That should help you
> track down what's actually happening.
>
> Art
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> On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 11:42 PM, Mike Wickham <info at mikewickham.com>wrote:
>
>> The font is different in those two samples, and neither one of them
>> appears to be Times New Roman.
>>
>> So check to be sure you are using the font that you think you are. Also,
>> make sure that Adobe PDF is set as your default printer when working in FM,
>> or the PDF output may not match what you see in FM. The print driver can
>> affect the fonts available. The free SetPrint utility will set Adobe PDF as
>> the default printer, without altering the default for any other Windows
>> programs. (http://sundorne.com/**FrameMaker/Freeware/setPrint.**htm<http://sundorne.com/FrameMaker/Freeware/setPrint.htm>
>> )
>>
>> Make sure your font is actually installed on your computer. If you have a
>> printer besides Adobe PDF set as the default in FM, then FM can see and use
>> its "printer resident" fonts-- that is, fonts that are hard-wired inside
>> the printer and available for printing _on that printer_, but not
>> necessarily installed on the computer where they would be available to
>> embed in a PDF. If the font isn't actually installed on the computer--
>> usually in the \windows\fonts folder-- the PDF will be forced to substitute
>> with something else.
>>
>> Make sure your font is set to embed in the PDF. If you have Acrobat, you
>> use Acrobat Distiller to do this, editing the appropriate settings file.
>> The High Quality Print settings file has all fonts set to embed, unless
>> someone altered it.
>>
>> You also might trying printing to the Adobe PDF virtual printer, rather
>> than using Save as PDF. You didn't mention which FrameMaker version you
>> have, but Save as PDF was highly unreliable in older versions-- so much so
>> that all the gurus warned to avoid it.
>>
>> Anyway, those are some starting places to look.
>>
>> Mike Wickham
>>
>>
>> On 7/18/2013 6:29 PM, Chris Coggins wrote:
>>
>>> Attached are two screen caps of a portion of text: 1 is the resultant
>>> PDF from a Framemaker  file recreating a source document, the other is from
>>> the source document itself. The fonts are the same on both documents (10pt
>>> TNR), so why do they come out looking so small in the frame document?
>>>
>>> Frame font is TNR 10pt, 0% Spread, 100% Stretch, 12 pt Line Spacing. PDF
>>> was generated via save-as PDF command, High Quality Print setting in both
>>> frame and distiller.
>>>
>>> What should I do differently to make the PDF from Framemaker match the
>>> source?
>>>
>>>
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