framers Digest, Vol 97, Issue 24

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I love document services ;-)

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   1. Re: Is my beloved tool withering on the vine? (Matt Sullivan)
   2. Re: Character Tag "As Is" setting--isn't (Matt Sullivan)


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Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2013 21:15:32 -0800
From: Matt Sullivan <matt at mattrsullivan.com>
To: Steve Rickaby <srickaby at wordmongers.demon.co.uk>
Cc: "framers at lists.frameusers.com" <framers at lists.frameusers.com>,	K
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Subject: Re: Is my beloved tool withering on the vine?
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Standardization inevitably leads to structured authoring, DITA or another model.

Structure improves content management, accessibility, localization, and consistency of content.

Once you're doing structured authoring, you can use any structured authoring tool you like. Or use multiple tools, if you like?the files are now (presumably) .xml and can be edited by any xml editor. (Kinda like the HTML editor wars a few years ago)

In my opinion, FrameMaker has the best mix of price, cost of implementation, cost of maintenance, and existing user base. Put that together with other apps in the TCS, and Adobe's continuing development of the product, and it's tough to make a case for an existing Fm user to switch to another product.

FWIW, Flare isn't a structured authoring app, and I don't know enough about AuthorIt to weigh in on it.

-Matt

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On Nov 24, 2013, at 3:42 AM, Steve Rickaby <srickaby at wordmongers.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> At 10:10 +0000 22/11/13, Harro de Jong wrote:
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>> If FrameMaker's reuse options no longer meet your needs, Author-it (and Flare presumably, although I've no experience with it) is a possible replacement.
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> Or (surely?) moving to DITA with Frame?
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Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2013 22:48:01 -0800
From: Matt Sullivan <matt at mattrsullivan.com>
To: "Davis, David" <David.Davis at invensys.com>
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Subject: Re: Character Tag "As Is" setting--isn't
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Hi David, 

I agree with your thoughts on the subject, but I believe the engineers would call this "as designed"?

I know it could be better, but given that the Character Designer hasn't changed since, well, ever.

As such, I'm betting it's not at the top of the To-Do list for the engineers.

-Matt

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On Nov 20, 2013, at 12:53 AM, "Davis, David" <David.Davis at invensys.com> wrote:

> Cheers Matt,
> Yes I totally agree with your ?bottom line? ?
> But surely this is a bug? The Character Designer dialog box (or ?pod? as they seem to want to call it now) just simply isn?t behaving consistently and doing what it says it does.
> There is nothing I can see about this issue in the user docs
> http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/WSB9594AD8-4282-4fbe-AE5A-3A3A4C9CC813.html
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> From: Matt Sullivan [mailto:matt at mattrsullivan.com] 
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> Bottom line: Never update a character tag with your cursor in the text flow. Unless you like screwed up tags.
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