One big file 200mb or small files grouped for a

Alison Craig Alison.Craig at ultrasonix.com
Mon Sep 9 14:21:56 PDT 2013


When it comes to manuals/instructions, I always want access from my computer. I never insert the CD/DVD (in fact, most of the time, the IT department wouldn't allow me to keep the CD/DVD).

So what happens if someone needs to copy everything to hard drive (maybe a network drive for access by multiple users)?

Alison



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"Robert CH Shell" <rshell at iafrica.com> One big file 200mb or small files grouped for a

Carol J. Elkins" <celkins at awrittenword.com> 

Carol,

That is exactly what I do....




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Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2013 12:16:31 -0600
From: "Carol J. Elkins" <celkins at awrittenword.com>
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: One big file 200mb or small files grouped for a
	commercial	pdf 	produ
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What I do is to create a welcome or home page (which is a PDF file) that automatically launches when the CD is inserted. The welcome file contains links to the other books on the CD. That makes it easier and quicker for the user to navigate around the CD. Each book's PDF has a Return to Welcome Page bookmark at the bottom, allowing the user to return to the home page to access a different book.

Carol

>With the advent of the rich media formats, my commercial pdfs are 
>getting bigger and bigger.
>When compiling a final  product should I generate the separate child 
>books as separate pdfs and then group them before copying the group to 
>the final CD?.

******************************************
Carol J. Elkins---A Written Word LLC
Making Information Understandable
Phone: 719-948-3773
mailto:celkins at awrittenword.com
http://www.awrittenword.com
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Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2013 00:06:58 +0200
From: "Robert CH Shell" <rshell at iafrica.com>
To: <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: One big file 200mb or small files grouped for a commercial
	pdf	product?
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Hi framers: 
I need some advice from anyone with FM commercial experience of selling pdf CDs. 

With the advent of the rich media formats, my commercial pdfs are getting bigger and bigger.
When compiling a final  product should I generate the separate child books as separate pdfs and then group them before copying the group to the final CD?. 

Would the buyer have problem loading or reading the grouped files, or should I just use my normal route of creating one huge pdf?

I also think, but do not know, that a customer with a smaller computer might have a problem with a huge file, although my little laptop does not have a problem with the single file although it flashes a message "This file is over 100MB"
Any pointers?
Rob Shell
rshell at iafrica.com
rshell at uwc.ac.za
shell.robert.c.h at gmail.com

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   1. Save DitaMap as Book with FM components fails (1 pdf)
      (Klaus Daube)
   2. Re: One big file 200mb or small files grouped for a
      commercial	pdf 	produ (Carol J. Elkins)
   3. Re: Save DitaMap as Book with FM components fails (1 pdf)
      (Matt Sullivan)


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Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2013 19:10:26 +0200
From: "Klaus Daube" <frame at daube.ch>
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Subject: Save DitaMap as Book with FM components fails (1 pdf)
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Dear all,

I'm a layman with respect to Dita, but need to convert a deeply nested DitaMap to a FrameMaker book.
It turns out that Save DitaMap as "Book 11.0 with FM components (*.book)" does not convert all items.

See the pdf for both the structure of the DitaMap and the resulting FM-book:

- The items from the backmatter are completely missing in the FM-book
- Starting somewhere in chapter 7 ditamaps are no more converted to FM

I wanted to do this in FM-9 at first, but this tilts during the Save DitaMap as, Hence I do this in
FM-11.0.2.384 

Ideas how to cope with this problem are highly welcome!

Klaus Daube
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Docu + Design Daube; Sch?racher 11; CH-8053 Z?rich Technical documentation & consultancy; On-line and paper
F: +41-44-422 86 25  E: ddd at daube.ch  W: www.daube.ch

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Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2013 12:16:31 -0600
From: "Carol J. Elkins" <celkins at awrittenword.com>
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: One big file 200mb or small files grouped for a
	commercial	pdf 	produ
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed

What I do is to create a welcome or home page (which is a PDF file) that automatically launches when the CD is inserted. The welcome file contains links to the other books on the CD. That makes it easier and quicker for the user to navigate around the CD. Each book's PDF has a Return to Welcome Page bookmark at the bottom, allowing the user to return to the home page to access a different book.

Carol

>With the advent of the rich media formats, my commercial pdfs are 
>getting bigger and bigger.
>When compiling a final  product should I generate the separate child 
>books as separate pdfs and then group them before copying the group to 
>the final CD?.

******************************************
Carol J. Elkins---A Written Word LLC
Making Information Understandable
Phone: 719-948-3773
mailto:celkins at awrittenword.com
http://www.awrittenword.com
*******************************************



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Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 09:23:31 -0700
From: Matt Sullivan <matt at mattrsullivan.com>
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Subject: Re: Save DitaMap as Book with FM components fails (1 pdf)
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Hi Klaus,

See the recording of my DITA to PDF webinar I did for Adobe recently. You can find the recording at http://adobe.ly/15QxArz.

You can skip to the 23:25 mark in the recording to listen to the part of the presentation related saving as Fm, and related to the ditafm-output.ini.

-Matt

Matt R. Sullivan
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On Sep 8, 2013, at 10:10 AM, Klaus Daube <frame at daube.ch> wrote:

> Dear all,
> 
> I'm a layman with respect to Dita, but need to convert a deeply nested DitaMap to a FrameMaker book.
> It turns out that Save DitaMap as "Book 11.0 with FM components (*.book)" does not convert all items.
> 
> See the pdf for both the structure of the DitaMap and the resulting FM-book:
> 
> - The items from the backmatter are completely missing in the FM-book
> - Starting somewhere in chapter 7 ditamaps are no more converted to FM
> 
> I wanted to do this in FM-9 at first, but this tilts during the Save 
> DitaMap as, Hence I do this in
> FM-11.0.2.384
> 
> Ideas how to cope with this problem are highly welcome!
> 
> Klaus Daube
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Docu + Design Daube; Sch?racher 11; CH-8053 Z?rich Technical 
> documentation & consultancy; On-line and paper
> F: +41-44-422 86 25  E: ddd at daube.ch  W: www.daube.ch
> 
> The following section of this message contains a file attachment 
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