FM12: Quirks in Find/replace using RegEx (Perl)

[Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain@aeris.net)]

Hi, Fred.

Hmmm ... I understand your point, but am not sure I would entirely agree with the reasoning.

Yes, FrameMaker (and other programs like Word) do put in additional information besides the EOP glyph itself.

But, this is a relatively commonly used/desired function - certainly in simple text editors - to replace an EOP with other characters (perhaps including an EOP). For example, to "join" multiple lines together, or to do what Klaus mentions.

Yes, FM is not just a simple text editor, which is why I see your reasoning to not call it a bug.

But I think it would be good to define exactly what regular expression matching is supposed to do with EOP markers then (or have a special mechanism to identify and use an EOP more effectively perhaps?)

Z

From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fred Ridder
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 8:02 AM
To: frame at daube.ch; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: FM12: Quirks in Find/replace using RegEx (Perl)

No, I don't think it is a bug.
And end-of-paragraph mark is not a simple glyph; it has properties and attributes associated with it (e.g. a paragraph tag, the formatting associated with that paragraph tag, and any overrides to the standard formatting for the tag).
You can find an EOP as if it were a simple glyph because they do have a common fundamental property (i.e. denoting the end of a paragraph).
But you cannot effectively insert a new EOP in a replace string because there is no way to associate any of the other properties with the new mark.
Finding an EOP and replacing it with itself, on the other hand, is a valid operation because the found mark has a full complement of paragraph properties.

-Fred Ridder
> From: frame at daube.ch<mailto:frame at daube.ch>
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers at lists.frameusers.com>
> Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 15:48:17 +0200
> Subject: FM12: Quirks in Find/replace using RegEx (Perl)
>
> Friends of FramMaker, please judge.
>
> I want to find incorrectly ended paragraphs (missing punctuation).
> For example the following 4 lines are paragraphs, the first 2 correct,
> the next two incorrect:
>
> This is the first paragraph!
> And this is the second one.
> And here a third
> And a fourth one:
>
> RegEx Find/Replace with these settings:
> Find: ([^\.!?])\n
> Repl: $1.\n
> Result: find is correct, replacement is n instead of paragraph end
> With repl = $1.\r replacement is a forced newline; correct, but not wanted.
>
> Find: ([^\.!?])(\n)
> Repl: $1.$2
> This creates a correct replacement!
>
> IMHO the behaviour of not honoring \n as an 'end of paragraph' for the replacement is
> a bug. Do You agree?
>
> Klaus Daube
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