FrameMaker: mysterious font substitution in PDF

[Fred Ridder]

Adobe offers the Helvetica Std OpenType package (roman, oblique, bold, and bold oblique) for 5 users for $99.00, which might be a hand and a foot, but hardly an arm and a leg. 
See http://store1.adobe.com/cfusion/store/html/index.cfm?store=OLS-US&event=displayFontPackage&code=1424 
Of course, if you want the compressed, condensed, light, and black variants, it starts adding up at $29 each, and the Full Family package Robert mentioned starts looking better at its $360 price rather than $522 for 18 individual fonts.

If you can live without the semibold weight of Caslon, you might want to look at the "Type Basics" OpenType package, which includes the four basic variants of the Caslon face, along with 61 other fonts for $99.00 (5 user license). See http://store1.adobe.com/cfusion/store/html/index.cfm?store=OLS-US&event=displayFontPackage&code=1902 . The Caslon Pro package with all six variants of the face is $135.00 without the 61 other fonts, which are actually pretty intelligently chosen. 

But it seems to me that one advantage of the Adobe type store is that you can buy and download just the variants that you actually need to use, since the discount for most of the family bundles ranges between 14% for small bundles to 31% for the Helvetica Full Family bundle. And then there are the "loss-leader" bundles like the "Type Basics" package, which would cost over $2000 at the full individual prices. 

-Fred Ridder

> From: Syed.Hosain at aeris.net
> To: robert at lauriston.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 10:34:11 -0700
> Subject: RE: FrameMaker: mysterious font substitution in PDF
> 
> Robert Lauriston wrote:
> > Helvetica Standard Full Family is $360 for five computers. Single fonts are $29. adobe.com has PDFs showing which glyphs each font includes.
> > http://store1.adobe.com/cfusion/store/html/index.cfm?store=OLS-US&event=displayFontPackage&code=1767
> 
> Yeah. I saw that ... as well as the Adobe Helvetica Neue package at over $900 in the link I sent in my other post. 
> 
> And, Helvetica is even more expensive at the Linotype web site. Depending on whether you want PS or TT internals, the prices go from $9 to $35 per font ... adding up in a hurry!
> 
> That is just too expensive for just one font (well ... one font family is more accurate) for my desire to update the font. That is why I asked about not "having to pay an arm and a leg". :)
> 
> Z
> 
> On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 9:56 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain
> (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net) <Syed.Hosain at aeris.net> wrote:
> > Mike Wickham said:
> >
> > … Helvetica from your computer-- or replace it with the OpenType version.
> >
> > I am curious as to how to get hold of [newer] OTF versions of 
> > Helvetica (and some other old Adobe fonts that I use – like Caslon 
> > Expert) without having to pay an arm and a leg for it. As I recall, 
> > these fonts (with all variants) are darn expensive.
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