Did I miss the FM12.0.4 Update Announcement?

Fri Feb 27 10:02:09 PST 2015

Oh, wait – I missed your previous message. So I’m guessing it’s reimporting that you tried unsuccessfully, and then it worked the second time.

From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Combs, Richard (CW)
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 10:57 AM
To: Lin Sims
Cc: Davis, David; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Did I miss the FM12.0.4 Update Announcement?

Hmm. Then it made a liar out of the FM10 help, too. Maybe that “rasterization” language was left over from earlier releases…

From: Lin Sims [mailto:ljsims.ml at gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 10:16 AM
To: Combs, Richard (CW)
Cc: Davis, David; framers at lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers at lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: Re: Did I miss the FM12.0.4 Update Announcement?

And it's making a liar out of me. I just tried it again, and this time it worked.
Honestly, sometimes it isn't even worth banging your head against a table.

On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 12:13 PM, Lin Sims <ljsims.ml at gmail.com<mailto:ljsims.ml at gmail.com>> wrote:
I tried that, too, actually. First thing I did, and I should have listed it.

On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 10:35 AM, Combs, Richard (CW) <Richard.Combs at polycom.com<mailto:Richard.Combs at polycom.com>> wrote:
If what the FM10 help says is correct, this is because FM10 apparently didn’t import the graphics in native SVG format (emphasis added):

When importing a Scalable Vector Graphic (SVG), the SVG Import dialog box allows the user to select the rasterization quality of the image. By increasing the rasterization quality, printed and PDF versions are crisper; however, increasing the rasterization also increases the file size of the image, and it takes longer to import it.

FrameMaker prints Scalable Vector Graphic (SVG) images to PostScript printers by rendering the images as vector graphics using Encapsulated PostScript (EPS). For non-PostScript printers, FrameMaker uses the FrameImage format.
If I’m interpreting this correctly, FM10 converted SVGs to raster (bitmapped) images on import. It rendered those bitmaps as vector graphics when outputting to a PostScript device (printer or PDF), but at that point the text is not text, just lines – vectors describing a sequence of dots.

So the damage is done upon import, and nothing done subsequently can undo it. You have to reimport the original SVGs.

My sympathies.

From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com>] On Behalf Of Lin Sims
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 6:22 AM
To: Davis, David
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers at lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: Re: Did I miss the FM12.0.4 Update Announcement?

Syed,
Are these brand new files created by FM12, or are these files you converted from an earlier version? I ask because I've discovered that (at least for me) the text-searchable SVG graphic bug, which is listed as fixed for FM12, is only fixed if you're talking about new documents. None of the documents I have that were converted from FM10 to FM12 will produce PDFs with text-searchable SVG graphics. All of the documents that are created in FM12 produce PDFs with searchable SVG graphics.

So far I've determined that MIF-washing doesn't fix this, that you can't simply import the contents of the FM10 file into the FM12 file, and that you can't copy & paste using the Frame Interchange Format. Copy & pasting as Unicode text does work, but of course you then have to reapply all your formatting tags and recreate all your xrefs and conditionaled content. Oddly, you can copy and paste the tables in without causing an issue.

Note that my company's workflow is to use unstructured FM with embedded graphics; I do not know if this applies to structured FM or XML files or referenced graphics.

On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 4:18 AM, Davis, David <David.Davis at non.schneider-electric.com<mailto:David.Davis at non.schneider-electric.com>> wrote:
If people have a problem with a specific bug, I really would recommend logging it in the Adobe bug tracker.
When I logged my CMYK issue, there was already one other bug report in there for the same thing, and I did get a fix within about 3 months,
which is a pretty good turnaround for a behemoth like FrameMaker!
The more people log a bug. the higher a priority it will get with their dev team.

David
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From: Denis Daly [d.daly at icpnewtech.com<mailto:d.daly at icpnewtech.com>]
Sent: 27 February 2015 08:56
To: Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net<mailto:Syed.Hosain at aeris.net>); Davis, David; framers at lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers at lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: RE: Did I miss the FM12.0.4 Update Announcement?

Please keep us informed of your experiences with the CMYK issue Syed.

I (along with many others) was hoping this latest update would have solved the problem.

Denis

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