Adobe Customer Care-less - Yet another round

Jeff Coatsworth Jeff.Coatsworth at jonasclub.com
Wed Jun 3 10:48:11 PDT 2015


Yes, I think I’m going to drop it too – with everything on the Frame list getting echoed on the Yahoo group, I’ll just stick to this one and the HATT group – no spam associated with that one I’ve found.

From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of David Artman
Sent: June-03-15 1:34 PM
To: Alan Litchfield; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Adobe Customer Care-less - Yet another round

Glad I've never bothered to investigate the Yahoo group. In my experience, Yahoo Groups basically died sometime in the mid-oughties, and like many ghost towns, squatters and coyotes abound.

If I can't find an answer on http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/listinfo/framers (Framers; this list and its archives) it's not worth finding.

Further, my need for FM support has diminished considerably, for a variety of reasons (non-proprietary file formats; better tools for editing those; need for tight CCMS integration; ludicrous pricing model for FM/TCS; tried-and-true non-structured FM techniques in all templates I use or create, etc.). I'm basically on the list for the laughs, occasional "thing that makes me go 'hmmm'," and the very-rare help I offer on super-weird solutions (what I preferred to do in the past decade: kill the Goliaths of format/processing woes).

David
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Subject: Re: Adobe Customer Care-less - Yet another round
From: Alan Litchfield <alan at alphabyte.co.nz<mailto:alan at alphabyte.co.nz>>
Date: Tue, June 02, 2015 3:37 pm
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers at lists.frameusers.com>

Hmm, as some others of you who may have also decided to poke around, you
too may have noticed. Lot's of spam in that group and lots of NSFW
subject lines.
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