VB: framers Digest, Vol 115, Issue 12

Anna Lena Söderling AnnaLena.Soderling at stonebeach.se
Fri May 15 02:03:52 PDT 2015 

Hi,

To avoid these table troubles make sure when inserting a table to always have at least one empty paragraph below it. That makes it so much easier when you want to add more things below the first table. Regardless TableFootnotes. 

You will then see exactly where to put your insertion point.

Best regards, Anna Lena
StoneBeach AB Sweden

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Today's Topics:

   1. : Help Creation Flow and Upgrading from version 7.2 to the
      (Caroline Tabach)
   2. FrameMaker Bug: inability to add a table after a table
      footnote. (Roman Banks)
   3. RE: FrameMaker Bug: inability to add a table after a table
      footnote. (Rick Quatro)
   4. RE: Help Creation Flow and Upgrading from version 7.2 to the
      (Jeff Coatsworth)
   5. Re: FrameMaker Bug: inability to add a table after a table
      footnote. (Lin Sims)
   6. Re: FrameMaker Bug: inability to add a table after a table
      footnote. (Roman Banks)
   7. Re: FrameMaker Bug: inability to add a table after a table
      footnote. (Roman Banks)
   8. RE: FrameMaker Bug: inability to add a table after a table
      footnote. (Rick Quatro)
   9. Re: FrameMaker Bug: inability to add a table after a table
      footnote. (Lin Sims)
  10. Re: FrameMaker Bug: inability to add a table after a table
      footnote. (Lin Sims)
  11. Re: FrameMaker Bug: inability to add a table after a table
      footnote. (Roman Banks)
  12. Re: FrameMaker Bug: inability to add a table after a table
      footnote. (Urszula)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 09:14:12 +0300
From: "Caroline Tabach" <Caroline at radcom.com>
To: <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: : Help Creation Flow and Upgrading from version 7.2 to the
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Thanks for the good ideas.

I am sure I need the full version of Acrobat on my system for commenting etc. and working in other applications.

 

However, I wonder how much it will cost in my region.....

 

>From Frame 7.2 you can upgrade to TC5?

 

As from what I recollect I cannot upgrade FrameMaker itself for so many versions

 

 

 

Message: 7

Date: Tue, 12 May 2015 17:11:09 -0700

From: Robert Lauriston <robert at lauriston.com>

To: framers < >

Subject: Re: Help Creation Flow and Upgrading from version 7.2 to the

                latest     version

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There's no upgrade pricing from 7.2 to FrameMaker 12, but there is for TCS 5. So the price difference is only $200.

 

 

Caroline Tabach

Technical/Marcom Writer

Tel: +972-077-7745-042| caroline at radcom.com <mailto:caroline at radcom.com>
| www.radcom.com <http://www.radcom.com/>

  <http://www.radcom.com/> 

 

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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 11:27:37 +0000 (UTC)
From: Roman Banks <banks_roman at yahoo.com>
To: Framers <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: FrameMaker Bug: inability to add a table after a table
	footnote.
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	<1177153469.172785.1431602857581.JavaMail.yahoo at mail.yahoo.com>
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Hello fellows,
I've just reproduced this issue both in FM10 and in FM12. The "Insert Table" option under the "Table" menu is grayed out if you try to add a table on a new line after a table footnote.
Have you ever encountered this issue???
Regards,Roman
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Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 08:39:01 -0400
From: "Rick Quatro" <rick at rickquatro.com>
To: "'Roman Banks'" <banks_roman at yahoo.com>,	"'Framers'"
	<framers at lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: RE: FrameMaker Bug: inability to add a table after a table
	footnote.
Message-ID: <006701d08e42$f535bdb0$dfa13910$@com>
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Hi Roman,

 

Footnotes have their own flow and you can't add a table to footnotes, but you can add a table to the main flow after the footnote. I just tried it with FM 12.

 

Rick

 

Rick Quatro

Carmen Publishing Inc.

585-366-4017

rick at frameexpert.com

 

 

 

From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Roman Banks
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 7:28 AM
To: Framers
Subject: FrameMaker Bug: inability to add a table after a table footnote.

 

Hello fellows,

 

I've just reproduced this issue both in FM10 and in FM12. The "Insert Table" option under the "Table" menu is grayed out if you try to add a table on a new line after a table footnote.

 

Have you ever encountered this issue?  

 

Regards,

Roman

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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 12:42:07 +0000
From: Jeff Coatsworth <Jeff.Coatsworth at jonasclub.com>
To: "framers at lists.frameusers.com" <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: RE: Help Creation Flow and Upgrading from version 7.2 to the
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You probably don't get much of a discount with a jump that big, but contact Adobe to find out.

From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Caroline Tabach
Sent: May-14-15 2:14 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: : Help Creation Flow and Upgrading from version 7.2 to the

Thanks for the good ideas.
I am sure I need the full version of Acrobat on my system for commenting etc. and working in other applications.

However, I wonder how much it will cost in my region.....

>From Frame 7.2 you can upgrade to TC5?

As from what I recollect I cannot upgrade FrameMaker itself for so many versions




Message: 7

Date: Tue, 12 May 2015 17:11:09 -0700

From: Robert Lauriston <robert at lauriston.com<mailto:robert at lauriston.com>>

To: framers < >

Subject: Re: Help Creation Flow and Upgrading from version 7.2 to the

                latest     version

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There's no upgrade pricing from 7.2 to FrameMaker 12, but there is for TCS 5. So the price difference is only $200.


Caroline Tabach
Technical/Marcom Writer
Tel: +972-077-7745-042| caroline at radcom.com<mailto:caroline at radcom.com> | www.radcom.com<http://www.radcom.com/>
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 08:44:45 -0400
From: Lin Sims <ljsims.ml at gmail.com>
To: Roman Banks <banks_roman at yahoo.com>
Cc: Framers <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: Re: FrameMaker Bug: inability to add a table after a table
	footnote.
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I am unable to reproduce the error as described. Is it possible you're actually trying to insert the table into a new line in the footnote, rather than the line after the table anchor?

On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 7:27 AM, Roman Banks <banks_roman at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hello fellows,
>
> I've just reproduced this issue both in FM10 and in FM12. The "Insert 
> Table" option under the "Table" menu is grayed out if you try to add a 
> table on a new line after a table footnote.
>
> Have you ever encountered this issue?
>
> Regards,
> Roman
>
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 12:52:14 +0000 (UTC)
From: Roman Banks <banks_roman at yahoo.com>
To: Rick Quatro <rick at rickquatro.com>, 	'Framers'
	<framers at lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: Re: FrameMaker Bug: inability to add a table after a table
	footnote.
Message-ID:
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Hi Rick,
Thank you for your response!
I think you misunderstood me. I wasn't going to add a table to a footnote. I?was going?to add a table after a *table footnote* that appears right under the preceding table.So even if I apply the Body pgf tag to the new line, I can't add a table on this line.
Regards,Roman ?


     On Thursday, May 14, 2015 3:39 PM, Rick Quatro <rick at rickquatro.com> wrote:
   

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  Hi Roman, ?Footnotes have their own flow and you can't add a table to footnotes, but you can add a table to the main flow after the footnote. I just tried it with FM 12. ?Rick ?Rick QuatroCarmen Publishing Inc.585-366-4017rick at frameexpert.com ? ? ?From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Roman Banks
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 7:28 AM
To: Framers
Subject: FrameMaker Bug: inability to add a table after a table footnote. ?Hello fellows, ?I've just reproduced this issue both in FM10 and in FM12. The "Insert Table" option under the "Table" menu is grayed out if you try to add a table on a new line after a table footnote. ?Have you ever encountered this issue??? ?Regards,Roman

  
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Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 12:59:15 +0000 (UTC)
From: Roman Banks <banks_roman at yahoo.com>
To: Rick Quatro <rick at rickquatro.com>, 	'Framers'
	<framers at lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: Re: FrameMaker Bug: inability to add a table after a table
	footnote.
Message-ID:
	<259364585.218275.1431608355186.JavaMail.yahoo at mail.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

To reproduce:
1. In an existing table, put your cursor in one of the cells.2. Click Special --> Footnote. The table footnote appears right after the table.3. Create a new line and apply the Body pgf style to this line.4. Try to insert a new table...
Regards,Roman 


     On Thursday, May 14, 2015 3:52 PM, Roman Banks <banks_roman at yahoo.com> wrote:
   

 Hi Rick,
Thank you for your response!
I think you misunderstood me. I wasn't going to add a table to a footnote. I?was going?to add a table after a *table footnote* that appears right under the preceding table.So even if I apply the Body pgf tag to the new line, I can't add a table on this line.
Regards,Roman ?


     On Thursday, May 14, 2015 3:39 PM, Rick Quatro <rick at rickquatro.com> wrote:
   

 #yiv4505705626 -- filtered {font-family:Helvetica;panose-1:2 11 6 4 2 2 2 2 2 4;}#yiv4505705626 filtered {panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;}#yiv4505705626 filtered {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}#yiv4505705626 filtered {font-family:Tahoma;panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}#yiv4505705626 p.yiv4505705626MsoNormal, #yiv4505705626  li.yiv4505705626MsoNormal, #yiv4505705626 div.yiv4505705626MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:12.0pt;}#yiv4505705626 a:link, #yiv4505705626 span.yiv4505705626MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv4505705626 a:visited, #yiv4505705626 span.yiv4505705626MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv4505705626 span.yiv4505705626EmailStyle17 {color:#1F497D;}#yiv4505705626 .yiv4505705626MsoChpDefault {font-size:10.0pt;}#yiv4505705626 filtered {margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}#yiv4505705626 div.yiv4505705626WordSection1 {}#yiv4505705626 Hi Roman, ?Footnotes have their own flow and you can  't add a table to footnotes, but you can add a table to the main flow after the footnote. I just tried it with FM 12. ?Rick ?Rick QuatroCarmen Publishing Inc.585-366-4017rick at frameexpert.com ? ? ?From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Roman Banks
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 7:28 AM
To: Framers
Subject: FrameMaker Bug: inability to add a table after a table footnote. ?Hello fellows, ?I've just reproduced this issue both in FM10 and in FM12. The "Insert Table" option under the "Table" menu is grayed out if you try to add a table on a new line after a table footnote. ?Have you ever encountered this issue??? ?Regards,Roman

   

  
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 09:16:21 -0400
From: "Rick Quatro" <rick at rickquatro.com>
To: "'Roman Banks'" <banks_roman at yahoo.com>,	"'Framers'"
	<framers at lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: RE: FrameMaker Bug: inability to add a table after a table
	footnote.
Message-ID: <004401d08e48$2c224fa0$8466eee0$@com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Hi Roman,

 

When you create a new line, you are still in the footnote flow. You have to click after the table anchor and create a new paragraph. Your cursor will be below the table footnote and you can add another table.

 

Rick

 

From: Roman Banks [mailto:banks_roman at yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 8:59 AM
To: Rick Quatro; 'Framers'
Subject: Re: FrameMaker Bug: inability to add a table after a table footnote.

 

To reproduce:

 

1. In an existing table, put your cursor in one of the cells.

2. Click Special --> Footnote. The table footnote appears right after the table.

3. Create a new line and apply the Body pgf style to this line.

4. Try to insert a new table...

 

Regards,

Roman

 

 

On Thursday, May 14, 2015 3:52 PM, Roman Banks <banks_roman at yahoo.com> wrote:

 

Hi Rick,

 

Thank you for your response!

 

I think you misunderstood me. I wasn't going to add a table to a footnote. I was going to add a table after a *table footnote* that appears right under the preceding table.

So even if I apply the Body pgf tag to the new line, I can't add a table on this line.

 

Regards,

Roman

 

 

 

On Thursday, May 14, 2015 3:39 PM, Rick Quatro <rick at rickquatro.com> wrote:

 

Hi Roman,

 

Footnotes have their own flow and you can't add a table to footnotes, but you can add a table to the main flow after the footnote. I just tried it with FM 12.

 

Rick

 

Rick Quatro

Carmen Publishing Inc.

585-366-4017

rick at frameexpert.com

 

 

 

From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Roman Banks
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 7:28 AM
To: Framers
Subject: FrameMaker Bug: inability to add a table after a table footnote.

 

Hello fellows,

 

I've just reproduced this issue both in FM10 and in FM12. The "Insert Table" option under the "Table" menu is grayed out if you try to add a table on a new line after a table footnote.

 

Have you ever encountered this issue?  

 

Regards,

Roman

 

 

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Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 09:25:40 -0400
From: Lin Sims <ljsims.ml at gmail.com>
To: Roman Banks <banks_roman at yahoo.com>
Cc: Framers <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: Re: FrameMaker Bug: inability to add a table after a table
	footnote.
Message-ID:
	<CA+MomCgpwVb8LMm42LQn_ZC04tphTtACBT8cYrJ5_0PtF6SFgQ at mail.gmail.com>
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Roman, it still sounds like you're trying to insert a table into a footnote. Is your cursor still in the footnote when you insert the new line and apply Body to it? If so, you're still in the table footnote even though it doesn't look like it. You have to put your cursor on the same line as the table anchor and then create the new line.

On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 8:59 AM, Roman Banks <banks_roman at yahoo.com> wrote:

> To reproduce:
>
> 1. In an existing table, put your cursor in one of the cells.
> 2. Click Special --> Footnote. The table footnote appears right after 
> the table.
> 3. Create a new line and apply the Body pgf style to this line.
> 4. Try to insert a new table...
>
> Regards,
> Roman
>
>
>
>   On Thursday, May 14, 2015 3:52 PM, Roman Banks 
> <banks_roman at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Rick,
>
> Thank you for your response!
>
> I think you misunderstood me. I wasn't going to add a table to a footnote.
> I was going to add a table after a *table footnote* that appears right 
> under the preceding table.
> So even if I apply the Body pgf tag to the new line, I can't add a 
> table on this line.
>
> Regards,
> Roman
>
>
>
>
>   On Thursday, May 14, 2015 3:39 PM, Rick Quatro <rick at rickquatro.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Roman,
>
> Footnotes have their own flow and you can't add a table to footnotes, 
> but you can add a table to the main flow after the footnote. I just 
> tried it with FM 12.
>
> Rick
>
> Rick Quatro
> Carmen Publishing Inc.
> 585-366-4017
> rick at frameexpert.com
>
>
>
> *From:* framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:
> framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Roman Banks
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 14, 2015 7:28 AM
> *To:* Framers
> *Subject:* FrameMaker Bug: inability to add a table after a table 
> footnote.
>
> Hello fellows,
>
> I've just reproduced this issue both in FM10 and in FM12. The "Insert 
> Table" option under the "Table" menu is grayed out if you try to add a 
> table on a new line after a table footnote.
>
> Have you ever encountered this issue?
>
> Regards,
> Roman
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
>
>
> You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims.ML at gmail.com.
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Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 09:26:29 -0400
From: Lin Sims <ljsims.ml at gmail.com>
To: Roman Banks <banks_roman at yahoo.com>
Cc: Framers <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: Re: FrameMaker Bug: inability to add a table after a table
	footnote.
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	<CA+MomChfLR1KUmJUO_TGJX-YLdptP0k5D0FPujXB1Robqup78w at mail.gmail.com>
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Rick,

We have to stop meeting like this. <laughing>

On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 9:25 AM, Lin Sims <ljsims.ml at gmail.com> wrote:

> Roman, it still sounds like you're trying to insert a table into a 
> footnote. Is your cursor still in the footnote when you insert the new 
> line and apply Body to it? If so, you're still in the table footnote 
> even though it doesn't look like it. You have to put your cursor on 
> the same line as the table anchor and then create the new line.
>
> On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 8:59 AM, Roman Banks <banks_roman at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>> To reproduce:
>>
>> 1. In an existing table, put your cursor in one of the cells.
>> 2. Click Special --> Footnote. The table footnote appears right after 
>> the table.
>> 3. Create a new line and apply the Body pgf style to this line.
>> 4. Try to insert a new table...
>>
>> Regards,
>> Roman
>>
>>
>>
>>   On Thursday, May 14, 2015 3:52 PM, Roman Banks 
>> <banks_roman at yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi Rick,
>>
>> Thank you for your response!
>>
>> I think you misunderstood me. I wasn't going to add a table to a 
>> footnote. I was going to add a table after a *table footnote* that 
>> appears right under the preceding table.
>> So even if I apply the Body pgf tag to the new line, I can't add a 
>> table on this line.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Roman
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>   On Thursday, May 14, 2015 3:39 PM, Rick Quatro 
>> <rick at rickquatro.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi Roman,
>>
>> Footnotes have their own flow and you can't add a table to footnotes, 
>> but you can add a table to the main flow after the footnote. I just 
>> tried it with FM 12.
>>
>> Rick
>>
>> Rick Quatro
>> Carmen Publishing Inc.
>> 585-366-4017
>> rick at frameexpert.com
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:
>> framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Roman Banks
>> *Sent:* Thursday, May 14, 2015 7:28 AM
>> *To:* Framers
>> *Subject:* FrameMaker Bug: inability to add a table after a table 
>> footnote.
>>
>> Hello fellows,
>>
>> I've just reproduced this issue both in FM10 and in FM12. The "Insert 
>> Table" option under the "Table" menu is grayed out if you try to add 
>> a table on a new line after a table footnote.
>>
>> Have you ever encountered this issue?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Roman
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 13:27:43 +0000 (UTC)
From: Roman Banks <banks_roman at yahoo.com>
To: Rick Quatro <rick at rickquatro.com>, 	'Framers'
	<framers at lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: Re: FrameMaker Bug: inability to add a table after a table
	footnote.
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Hi Rick,
That works, you are right. I was sure that if I apply the Body pgf tag to the new line I will exit the footnote flow. And it looked like so -- I added a regular Body text line. I still think that FM should exit the footnote flow automatically if you apply the Body tag to the new line. :-) Thanks again,Roman 


     On Thursday, May 14, 2015 4:16 PM, Rick Quatro <rick at rickquatro.com> wrote:
   

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Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 8:59 AM
To: Rick Quatro; 'Framers'
Subject: Re: FrameMaker Bug: inability to add a table after a table footnote. ?To reproduce: ?1. In an existing table, put your cursor in one of the cells.2. Click Special --> Footnote. The table footnote appears right after the table.3. Create a new line and apply the Body pgf style to this line.4. Try to insert a new table... ?Regards,Roman ? ?On Thursday, May 14, 2015 3:52 PM, Roman Banks <banks_roman at yahoo.com> wrote: ?Hi Rick, ?Thank you for your response! ?I think you misunderstood me. I wasn't going to add a table to a footnote. I?was going?to add a table after a *table footnote* that appears right under the preceding table.So even if I apply the Body pgf tag to the new line, I can't add a table on this line. ?Regards,Roman? ? ?On Thursday, May 14, 2015 3:39 PM, Rick Quatro <rick at rickquatro.com> wrote: ?Hi Roman,?Footnotes have their own flow and you can't add a table to footnotes, but you can add a table to the main flow after the footnote. I just tried it with FM 12.
 ?Rick?Rick QuatroCarmen Publishing Inc.585-366-4017rick at frameexpert.com???From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Roman Banks
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 7:28 AM
To: Framers
Subject: FrameMaker Bug: inability to add a table after a table footnote.?Hello fellows,?I've just reproduced this issue both in FM10 and in FM12. The "Insert Table" option under the "Table" menu is grayed out if you try to add a table on a new line after a table footnote.?Have you ever encountered this issue????Regards,Roman ? ?

  
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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 09:40:34 -0400
From: Urszula <urszulawitherell at jetsetcom.net>
To: Lin Sims <ljsims.ml at gmail.com>
Cc: Framers <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: Re: FrameMaker Bug: inability to add a table after a table
	footnote.
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Roman,
Try to Zoom in to 400% with you Text symbols turned on from the View menu. Then you will see exactly where your insertion point is.


Urszula Witherell
www.jetsetcom.net | www.trainingonsite.com
301.524.3165

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> On May 14, 2015, at 9:25 AM, Lin Sims <ljsims.ml at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Roman, it still sounds like you're trying to insert a table into a footnote. Is your cursor still in the footnote when you insert the new line and apply Body to it? If so, you're still in the table footnote even though it doesn't look like it. You have to put your cursor on the same line as the table anchor and then create the new line.
> 
>> On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 8:59 AM, Roman Banks <banks_roman at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> To reproduce:
>> 
>> 1. In an existing table, put your cursor in one of the cells.
>> 2. Click Special --> Footnote. The table footnote appears right after the table.
>> 3. Create a new line and apply the Body pgf style to this line.
>> 4. Try to insert a new table...
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Roman
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Thursday, May 14, 2015 3:52 PM, Roman Banks <banks_roman at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Rick,
>> 
>> Thank you for your response!
>> 
>> I think you misunderstood me. I wasn't going to add a table to a footnote. I was going to add a table after a *table footnote* that appears right under the preceding table.
>> So even if I apply the Body pgf tag to the new line, I can't add a table on this line.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Roman
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Thursday, May 14, 2015 3:39 PM, Rick Quatro <rick at rickquatro.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Roman,
>>  
>> Footnotes have their own flow and you can't add a table to footnotes, but you can add a table to the main flow after the footnote. I just tried it with FM 12.
>>  
>> Rick
>>  
>> Rick Quatro
>> Carmen Publishing Inc.
>> 585-366-4017
>> rick at frameexpert.com
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
>> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Roman 
>> Banks
>> Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 7:28 AM
>> To: Framers
>> Subject: FrameMaker Bug: inability to add a table after a table footnote.
>>  
>> Hello fellows,
>>  
>> I've just reproduced this issue both in FM10 and in FM12. The "Insert Table" option under the "Table" menu is grayed out if you try to add a table on a new line after a table footnote.
>>  
>> Have you ever encountered this issue?  
>>  
>> Regards,
>> Roman
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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