[Framers] Machinations of .Portrait and .Landscape

[Ant Davey]

   Craig,

   Thank you for taking the time to respond in your 'zoned-out' state.  I
   didn't explain myself clearly...

   What I'm trying to achieve is that the .Landscape paragraph (which I'd
   insert before the content to appear on a landscape page) doesn't act
   like any other paragraph.  It appears to stick to the top of the page
   on which is is inserted.  Regardless of what content changes are made
   before it.

   And that's my issue. I work in an environment where changes are almost
   inevitable.  'Can we move this section...'  or 'I think it would be
   good if we inserted a new image/table here.'  'Let's just add these two
   paragraphs in here.' and so on.  Oh the joys of working with SMEs, who
   don't look outside their world.

   Many thanks,
   Ant

     On 17 February 2017 at 16:42 Craig Ede <craigede at hotmail.com> wrote:

     Corrections below. Sorry, I'm still blurry eyed out here in the
     Pacific Time Zone.

     Craig

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     Subject: Re: [Framers] Machinations of .Portrait and .Landscape

     You can limit the page used to one page or to persist until you
     apply another change. Consult the documentation:

     [1]http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/2015/using/using-framemake
     r-2015/frm_page_layout_pl/Assign_master_pages_to_body_pages-.htm
     Assign master pages to body pages -
     help.adobe.com<http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/2015/using/usi
     ng-framemaker-2015/frm_page_layout_pl/Assign_master_pages_to_body_pa
     ges-.htm>
     help.adobe.com
     Assign master pages to body pages. You can assign a master page to a
     body page at any time. FrameMaker uses the template text frame from
     the master page and displays ...

     Forget the idea that you have about applying it immediately after
     your paragraph. It doesn't work that way. It works beginning with
     the paragraph you defined as assigned to the Master page in question
     (which is, after all, more sensible).

     Regarding your second question: Define another master page with the
     slightly longer page to solve that problem. Having an apply master
     pages command that respects page overrides would essentially not
     result in the application of the master pages, but acceptance of
     what you already had.

     Good luck

     Craig

     Assign master pages to body pages -
     help.adobe.com<http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/2015/using/usi
     ng-framemaker-2015/frm_page_layout_pl/Assign_master_pages_to_body_pa
     ges-.htm>
     Assign master pages to body pages -
     help.adobe.com<http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/2015/using/usi
     ng-framemaker-2015/frm_page_layout_pl/Assign_master_pages_to_body_pa
     ges-.htm>
     help.adobe.com
     Assign master pages to body pages. You can assign a master page to a
     body page at any time. FrameMaker uses the template text frame from
     the master page and displays ...

     help.adobe.com
     Assign master pages to body pages. You can assign a master page to a
     body page at any time. FrameMaker uses the template text frame from
     the master page and displays ...

     ________________________________
     ...
     "What I want to achieve is to have the content immediately after a
     .Landscape paragraph appear on a Landscape oriented page. I don't
     want
     the specific page on which I place the marker (and those thereafter
     until told otherwise) to be landscape."
     ...

     In the same vein, is there a way to retain overrides when Applying
     Master Pages? For neatness, to avoid widows and orphans or fit an
     image with is descriptive text, I will sometimes lengthen the text
     frame on a page. Applying Master Pages, to get the .Landscape and
     .Portrait commands to work will throw out all my little adjustments
     and
     make their time saving benefits almost redundant.

     If there are no workarounds for this, Adobe please consider these as
     feature requests.

     Many thanks,

     Ant
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