[Framers] Curly Quote conundrum

Victoria Muir tmuir at spot-on-creative.com
Mon Feb 27 18:12:33 PST 2017


Well.. as someone who functions primarily as a designer, this doesn't sound so crazy to me – some fonts have godawful quote marks. But couldn't they be replaced/have a  character style applied  at the last minute using a Grep search or something? 

Tori Muir
tmuir at spot-on-creative.com  

On 2/27/17, 5:40 PM, "Framers on behalf of Robert Lauriston" <framers-bounces+tmuir=spot-on-creative.com at lists.frameusers.com on behalf of robert at lauriston.com> wrote:

    As Heiko pointed out, you're actually getting curly quotes, you just
    don't like the subtle way the font designer drew them.
    
    I'd live with it or change fonts. Overriding certain glyphs with
    another font is crazy.
    
    On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 3:38 PM, Tammy Van Boening
    <tammyvb at spectrumwritingllc.com> wrote:
    > Well, that's just flat out useless - OK, guess I will just have to copy and
    > paste the curly quotes from the body font and different fonts be d***d. . .
    >
    > Thanks Robert.
    >
    > Tammy Van Boening
    > Owner/Principal
    > Spectrum Writing, LLC
    > www.spectrumwritingllc.com
    > TammyVB  *AT*  spectrumwritingllc  *DOT*  com
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Framers
    > [mailto:framers-bounces+tammyvb=spectrumwritingllc.com at lists.frameusers.com]
    > On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
    > Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 4:12 PM
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    > Subject: Re: [Framers] Curly Quote conundrum
    >
    > Looks like that's how Avenier Next LT is designed. 201c and 201d use the
    > same glyph.
    >
    > https://www.linotype.com/1129827/avenir-next-light-product.html
    >
    > On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 2:45 PM, Tammy Van Boening
    > <tammyvb at spectrumwritingllc.com> wrote:
    >> FM 10, Win 7, AvenirNext LT Pro font for Table Body and Sans Pro
    >> Source for text body. (Required by the client).
    >>
    >> For Table Body:
    >> I can get straight double quotes inserted just fine, but I want curly
    >> quotes. With  Smart Quotes turned off, I am trying to insert curly
    >> double quotes in the file. For the left curly double quote, I use the
    >> command of
    >> CTRL+q R and the quote is double, but it is still facing the wrong
    >> CTRL+direction
    >> - it looks like a right curly double quote. For the right curly double
    >> quote, I use the command of CTRL+q S and that appears just fine.  So,
    >> I tried with Smart Quotes turned on just and no go. . . the same result.
    >>
    >> FWIW, when using the Sans Pro Source font , with Smart Quotes turned
    >> on, I can get proper facing curly quotes no problem.
    >>
    >> Why would the font make a difference and any advice about getting
    >> curly quotes to work with the required Table Font would be sincerely
    > appreciated.
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