[Framers] PDFs in a FM book file
Lin Sims
ljsims.ml at gmail.com
Tue Mar 21 07:08:58 PDT 2017
Hmmm. Just now reading up on dynamic forms. Did NOT realize they
rerendered; I have mistaken interactive for dynamic, I guess.
My apologies, David.
On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 10:00 AM, Lin Sims <ljsims.ml at gmail.com> wrote:
> If by a dynamic form you're talking about a PDF form that can be filled in
> and saved, then yes, it can. There's a plugin for forms call Forms
> Assistant. Fillable fields, drop-down selection, radio buttons, check
> marks, the works. I took one of his courses years ago, and the order form
> was a PDF he made using Frame and TimeSavers. It was very slick.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 9:46 AM, David Artman <david at davidartman.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Oh, yes, I'm well aware of MicroType TimeSavers. I do not think they
>> will do dynamic forms, though.
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: Re: [Framers] PDFs in a FM book file
>> From: Lin Sims <[1]ljsims.ml at gmail.com>
>> Date: Mon, March 20, 2017 4:18 pm
>> To: "An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software."
>> <[2]framers at lists.frameusers.com>
>> Dave,
>> If you want to create forms and other things in Frame for output to
>> PDF,
>> check out Shlomo Perets' Microtypes website. His TimeSavers tools
>> insert
>> postscript code into Frame files to do things like create dynamic
>> forms.
>> [3]http://microtype.com/showcase.html
>> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 3:52 PM, David Artman
>> <[4]david at davidartman.com> wrote:
>> > You can use Acrobat Pro to append a PDF file to another PDF file, in
>> > whole or in part, and (IIRC) at any location using Document > Insert
>> > Pages.
>> >
>> > Yes, this adds a step (or more!) to workflow. Yes, the inserted PDF
>> > will have its own footers, etc; and thus, you might have to do some
>> > fancy footwork with page numbering in the two source files to get it
>> > all to align. Yes, any other autonumbering will be similarly
>> > problematic, requiring you to force it to start with a specific value
>> > (e.g., n=25). But you'll have a PDF "in" another PDF.
>> >
>> > As for "is [it] recommended", I think it's a good practice if you get
>> > content from a business partner, legal, or some other entity that
>> would
>> > not want you to have any chance of editing it. (Hmm... but such a
>> > locked-down PDF might not be appendable, in part or in whole, to
>> > another one? And you can always use Advanced Text Tools on unlocked
>> > PDFs, so maybe this use case ISN'T a good one! You'd probably have to
>> > insert into FrameMaker as full-page "images" if locked down.)
>> >
>> > OK, another use case is a PDF created in another editor, for example
>> a
>> > dynamic form made in LiveCycle Designer. VERY hard to do such things
>> in
>> > FrameMaker, but easy in LCD. I've never tried that workflow, but it
>> > seems kosher.
>> >
>> > Finally, you could have an 'example' PDF that is a sample of output
>> > resulting from a process that is documented in the earlier PDF. That
>> > would avoid you having to setup several master pages in the same book
>> > to show the variations. OR, if you are, say, making a training manual
>> > for using your publishing environment, and you want to show a sample
>> of
>> > all the output types, but Help won't append: make the Help output
>> save
>> > as PDF and then append tot he "how to" main PDF:
>> >
>> > * How To Run Output (1 PDF with 'internal style')
>> >
>> > ** PDF Output Example (1 PDF of single-sourced sample book with
>> > 'external style')
>> >
>> > ** Help Output Example (1 PDF of single-sourced sample book rendered
>> as
>> > Help then exported/saved as PDF)
>> >
>> > ** (etc.)
>> >
>> > So, sure! It's recommended in cases where sourcing everything in
>> > FrameMaker is impossible, too time consuming, or a poor content-reuse
>> > scenario. Hope this helps;
>> >
>> > David
>> >
>> > -------- Original Message --------
>> > Subject: [Framers] PDFs in a FM book file
>> > From: lklane64 <[1][5]lklane64 at gmail.com>
>> > Date: Fri, March 17, 2017 9:35 am
>> > To: [2][6]framers at lists.frameusers.com
>> > I was wondering if anyone answered the question about adding PDFs to
>> a
>> > FM book file. Does anyone know if this is possible or even
>> > recommended?
>> > Thanks in advance,Laura
>> >
>> > References
>> >
>> > 1. [7]mailto:lklane64 at gmail.com
>> > 2. [8]mailto:framers at lists.frameusers.com
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>> 2. mailto:framers at lists.frameusers.com
>> 3. http://microtype.com/showcase.html
>> 4. mailto:david at davidartman.com
>> 5. mailto:lklane64 at gmail.com
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