[Framers] Learning Structure and Prefix (and more)
cuc tu
cuc2u at hotmail.com
Wed Aug 29 10:34:36 PDT 2018
Hi All,
I had replied to the board and forgot to change the subject line, so this is continuing that topic. The short question is, how can I get the Subheading element's prefix text to appear as a full paragraph before the Description element's text?
I've build a small sample for this discussion and was trying to get a full paragraph heading inserted before the contents of a text element, based off the parent elements name. Also, it took quite a while to figure out how to make a mixed content model not throw errors, and I still really do not understand how else that sequence could be structured.
The SYSTEM and SPA elements insert the prefix text. However, I would think the structure should be: (<TEXT>,Description1&,Description2&)*
I don't understand the need for the wrapper and termination, but that's what I found by trial and error. Separating the elements this way does not work. In the end, there will be many optional "Description" elements and they will have mixed order.
Description1 and Description2 do not insert the Subheading prefix text. Further, it seems I would need to have the Subheading element before the <TEXT> element, since Subheading needs to be inserted before the Description element's text (or data).
Below are the EDD and xml source data, which all validates and could be usable, except for the missing prefix Subheading.
EDD Version is 12.0
Automatically create formats on import.
Element (Container): File
Valid as the highest-level element.
General rule: File_Title, (SYSTEM?,SPA?)
Element (Container): File_Title
General rule: <TEXT>
Text format rules
In all contexts.
Use paragraph format: Title
Element (Container): SYSTEM
General rule: (<TEXT>|Description1|Description2)*
Prefix rules
In all contexts.
Prefix: SYSTEM Heading
Text format rules
In all contexts.
Use paragraph format: ChapterHeading
Element (Container): SPA
General rule: (<TEXT>|Description1|Description2)*
Prefix rules
In all contexts.
Prefix: SPA Heading
Text format rules
In all contexts.
Use paragraph format: ChapterHeading
Element (Container): Description1
General rule: (<TEXT>|Subheading)*
Text format rules
In all contexts.
Use paragraph format: Indented4
Element (Container): Description2
General rule: (<TEXT>|Subheading)*
Text format rules
In all contexts.
Use paragraph format: Indented4
Element (Container): Subheading
General rule: <TEXT>
Prefix rules
If context is: Description1
Prefix: Insert Description1
Else, if context is:
Prefix: Insert Description2
Text format rules
In all contexts.
Use paragraph format: Heading4
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE File SYSTEM "file:///C:/FMStructure/Test.dtd" [
]>
<File>
<File_Title>File Title</File_Title>
<SYSTEM>
<Description1>SYSTEM description1</Description1>
<Description2>SYSTEM description2</Description2>
</SYSTEM>
<SPA>
<Description1>SPA description1</Description1>
<Description2>SPA description2</Description2>
</SPA>
</File>
Thanks
C2
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Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2018 22:24:51 +0200
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Hi Julie,
you could use a (one column) table for each Part Number and the belonging references. Put the Part Number paragraph in the table header (or table title) and add the table continued variable. This will be repeated at the top of each column where the table breaks.
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> Op 27 aug. 2018, om 22:02 heeft framers-request at lists.frameusers.com het volgende geschreven:
>
> I work in Unstructured FrameMaker 2017 and have no background with
> scripting or automating tasks. There may not be a simple solution, but
> figured it couldn't hurt to ask.
>
> I have a file I've imported from Word that contains a Part Number and then
> a list of chapter references for the part. The part number and chapter
> reference each have their own paragraph tag. The page is set up as 3
> columns and whenever the chapter references break over to a new column the
> client wants the part number repeated with (CONT) added.
>
> The file I'm working on is 60 pages long and I have an additional file
> approx same size yet to do. I can set it up manually, but would have to
> redo everytime something is added or deleted to the file.
>
> Is there any automated way of making this happen or is manually the only
> solution?
>
> Thanks/Julie
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Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2018 14:11:24 +0000
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Hi All,
I'm playing with the trial version of FM2019 (on Win 10) and I have found that I can't publish to PDF properly. Using the Publish options, I can't specify RGB or CMYK, I can't specify my output file name, and even with all that, resulting pdfs are blank. When I try Save as PDF, I'm told to go to the Publish options. I had success by going back to the old method of printing to a ps file and distilling it, but I would think with the new Publish options that PDF output would be simpler. My gut tells me something's busted. Has anybody else seen these issues?
Susan Corcoran
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Howdy Framers,
I am building a very simple structure, cut down further for this discussion. Some items I have not figured out:
When importing element defs into the template: Elements that are defined but not referenced. The FM str dev guide mentions this one time as a capitalization mismatch (pg33 of the 2015 release), but I cannot see the problem. The elements are Subheading, Description2, SPA, SYSTEM, and File_Title. If I remove the Description2 element and references, then the unreferenced elements are Subheading, Description1, and File_Title.
Some elements need a heading inserted as a paragraph, so I found an example for this in the dev guide, pg234. I'm not getting the prefix text inserted before the Description elements.
Thanks for any assist.
C2
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<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE File SYSTEM "file:///C:/FMStructure/Test.dtd" []>
<File>
<File_Title>File Title</File_Title>
<SYSTEM>
<Description1>SYSTEM description1</Description1>
<Description2>SYSTEM description2</Description2>
</SYSTEM>
<SPA>
<Description1>SPA description1</Description1>
<Description2>SPA description2</Description2>
</SPA>
</File>
======================================================
EDD Version is 12.0
Automatically create formats on import.
Element (Container): File
Valid as the highest-level element.
General rule: <ANY>
Element (Container): File_Title
General rule: <TEXT>
Text format rules
In all contexts.
Use paragraph format: Title
Element (Container): SYSTEM
General rule: <ANY>
Prefix rules
In all contexts.
Prefix: SYSTEM Heading
Text format rules
In all contexts.
Use paragraph format: ChapterHeading
Element (Container): SPA
General rule: <ANY>
Prefix rules
In all contexts.
Prefix: SPA Heading
Text format rules
In all contexts.
Use paragraph format: ChapterHeading
Element (Container): Description1
General rule: <TEXT>
Text format rules
In all contexts.
Use paragraph format: Indented4
Element (Container): Description2
General rule: <TEXT>
Text format rules
In all contexts.
Use paragraph format: Indented4
Element (Container): Subheading
General rule: <TEXT>
Prefix rules
If context is: Description1
Prefix: Insert Description1
Else, if context is:
Prefix: Insert Description2
Text format rules
In all contexts.
Use paragraph format: Heading4
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Credit where credit is due. My computer was force-updated to the current build of Windows 10 last week, and the activation status for my beloved Frame8 was destroyed. I tried reactivation over the 'net, and it failed. I tried the activation phone number, and it was (not surprisingly) defunct. I finally called Adobe support. After a fair number of cache-file shenanigans and a new serial number, FM8 is working again. Many thanks to Vaibhav Vishwakarma for jumping through the many hoops needed to solve my problem.
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Hi
The unreferenced elements are ones that you have defined in your EDD but do not appear in the content model of any other element, and are not root level elements. Mismatched spelling can cause this, as element names are case-sensitive. But they may also be merely unused elsewhere in the EDD.
Hope this helps.
Roger
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On 28 Aug 2018, 4:31 pm, at 4:31 pm, cuc tu <cuc2u at hotmail.com> wrote:
>Howdy Framers,
>
>I am building a very simple structure, cut down further for this
>discussion. Some items I have not figured out:
>
>When importing element defs into the template: Elements that are
>defined but not referenced. The FM str dev guide mentions this one time
>as a capitalization mismatch (pg33 of the 2015 release), but I cannot
>see the problem. The elements are Subheading, Description2, SPA,
>SYSTEM, and File_Title. If I remove the Description2 element and
>references, then the unreferenced elements are Subheading,
>Description1, and File_Title.
>
>Some elements need a heading inserted as a paragraph, so I found an
>example for this in the dev guide, pg234. I'm not getting the prefix
>text inserted before the Description elements.
>
>Thanks for any assist.
>C2
>
>======================================================
><?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
><!DOCTYPE File SYSTEM "file:///C:/FMStructure/Test.dtd" []>
>
><File>
><File_Title>File Title</File_Title>
><SYSTEM>
><Description1>SYSTEM description1</Description1>
><Description2>SYSTEM description2</Description2>
></SYSTEM>
><SPA>
><Description1>SPA description1</Description1>
><Description2>SPA description2</Description2>
></SPA>
></File>
>======================================================
>EDD Version is 12.0
>Automatically create formats on import.
>Element (Container): File
>Valid as the highest-level element.
>General rule: <ANY>
>Element (Container): File_Title
>General rule: <TEXT>
>Text format rules
>In all contexts.
>Use paragraph format: Title
>Element (Container): SYSTEM
>General rule: <ANY>
>Prefix rules
>In all contexts.
>Prefix: SYSTEM Heading
>Text format rules
>In all contexts.
>Use paragraph format: ChapterHeading
>Element (Container): SPA
>General rule: <ANY>
>Prefix rules
>In all contexts.
>Prefix: SPA Heading
>Text format rules
>In all contexts.
>Use paragraph format: ChapterHeading
>Element (Container): Description1
>General rule: <TEXT>
>Text format rules
>In all contexts.
>Use paragraph format: Indented4
>Element (Container): Description2
>General rule: <TEXT>
>Text format rules
>In all contexts.
>Use paragraph format: Indented4
>Element (Container): Subheading
>General rule: <TEXT>
>Prefix rules
>If context is: Description1
>Prefix: Insert Description1
>Else, if context is:
>Prefix: Insert Description2
>Text format rules
>In all contexts.
>Use paragraph format: Heading4
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