[Framers] Getting rid of missing fonts

Sun Jan 28 14:44:31 PST 2018

 If it is a strange font or one you know you haven't used, a better idea is
to search for the character format using that particular font, and remove
it, or change it to a font you do have. This can apply to master and
reference pages as well as body pages.

On 28 January 2018 at 07:33, <framers-request at lists.frameusers.com> wrote:

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> Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2018 19:18:04 +0000
> From: Stefan Gentz <gentz at adobe.com>
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> Cc: Catherine Forrest <catherine.forrest at ymail.com>
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> Which font (exactly) was reported as missing before you tried to get rid
> of it by turning off "Remember missing font names"? And which font
> (exactly) is reported as missing now?
> I'm asking, because FM replaces fonts by a standard mappings (see
> maker.ini). And maybe something like "Fontname1 Heavy" was replaced with
> "Fontname2 Heavy" (which might be not present as well) or somethings
> replacement problems come up with Bold, Italic, BoldItalic replacements.
>
> ?
> Regards,
> Stefan Gentz
> Adobe Worldwide TechComm Evangelist
> ??????????
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> From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+gentz=adobe.com at lists.frameusers.com]
> On Behalf Of Catherine Forrest
> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2018 17:11
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> Thanks to everyone for suggestions on how to get rid of missing fonts. I
> had already tried those things, unfortunately, and they hadn't worked.
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> Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2018 20:19:09 +0000
> From: Stefan Gentz <gentz at adobe.com>
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> Subject: Re: [Framers] Simplified Chinese and Latin Quotation Marks
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> Hi,
>
> Heiko Haida wrote:
> > the symbols U+201C and U+201D have to be used for the double quotes (in
> Simplified Chinese).
>
> At least as long as it's actually a "Quotation Mark." (for a quotation).
>
> If it's a title mark (e.g. for a book, or e.g. a chapter heading)
> fullwidth double angle brackets should be used as primary quotes):
>
> ??? (U+300A left double angle bracket, U+300B right double angle bracket)
>
> For embedding fullwidth single angle brackets, ??? (U+3008 left angle
> bracket, U+3009 right angle bracket) should be used (like this: ???????)
>
> (I hope the Chinese characters in this mail will make it through the list
> software.)
>
> I was discussing the use of quotation marks long and broad with several
> Chinese TechComm experts at tcworld China Conference in Shanghai last
> spring and with Chinese typography experts after the conference. Final
> recommendation was to use ???in cross-references to the title of other
> documents or subheadings (in the same or external document). Same also if
> you reference to titles of other documentations (like mentioning
> "Administrator Guide" in the "User Guide") or mentioning official papers,
> standard documents etc.
>
> That is, this would be the "perfect" way. However, I was confirmed that
> Chinese readers are also okay with the use of ??? in all scenarios -
> especially when they know, that the text was typeset by non-Chinese people.
> (But I guess it might be nice to avoid that this impression comes up.)
> ?
> Regards,
> Stefan Gentz
> Adobe Worldwide TechComm Evangelist
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> From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+gentz=adobe.com at lists.frameusers.com]
> On Behalf Of Heiko Haida
> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2018 00:09
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Simplified Chinese and Latin Quotation Marks
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> Hi Rick,
>
> the symbols U+201C and U+201D have to be used for the double quotes.
> The problem you describe should not occur with FM 2017 (in my test,
> everything was ok).
>
> Also, the quotes should be handled in way that they will be formatted with
> the Chinese font (not the Latin font).
>
> Best regards -- Tino H. Haida, Berlin
>
>  Rick Quatro:
>
> > Hi Framers,
> >
> > I have a structured FrameMaker 2017 document that has been translated
> > to Simplified Chinese. Some of the cross-reference formats have double
> > quotes in them, like
> >
> > See "<$paratext>" on page <$pagenum>.
> >
> > The text has been translated but the quotes and building blocks are
> still there. The problem is that with the Chinese there are sometimes line
> breaks after the open quote and before the close quote, depending on where
> the cross-reference falls on the line. For example, the close quote in the
> text below is on the second line by itself instead of bring the whole
> quoted text down with it.
> >
> > ??????????? 97 ?? " ????
> >
> > "
> >
> > The same thing happens if an open quote falls as the end of the line; it
> stays there and the rest of the quoted text moves to the next line. Is
> there a way to prevent these line breaks? Thank you very much.
> >
> > Rick
> >
> > Rick Quatro
> >
> > Carmen Publishing Inc.
> >
> > rick at frameexpert.com
> >
> > 585-366-4017
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