[Framers] DTD Question

[Nicole Rader]

I appreciate the response Roger.

I am still having issues with my DTD. I am trying to figure out if it is
the DTD that is corrupted or user error. If the attachments come through,
please see 001 EDD, this is an image of the EDD I wrote for the project
that I am working on. However, after I wrote this, I was given the DTD to
use, but the elements are labeled different from mine so now I need to
change mine. The image marked 002 EDD is the EDD created from the steps you
supplied above and livedtd.css is the text file containing the copied
information from the .html file.

When I copy the information from the .html file and create an EDD, it does
not include any formatting information. I made sure to include the CHAPTER
element in each image for reference. I believe that the formatting
information is included in different files within the live dtd folder that
I have. See the jpeg labeled folder for reference. This is the entire DTD
file structure I was given, minus the Chapter Template, 001 EDD, and 002
EDD, which are my additions.

This one has me stumped. I have a good EDD that works and the customer
wants the SGML to work with the given DTD. Is there a way to update the DTD
of theirs to include my paragraph tag selections for formatting, which are
defined in the Chapter Template file? If so, can I create a new structured
application that includes this DTD, the EDD created from it, and my
template to create a book for all the chapters and front matter of this
manual?

Please let me know if you don't have enough information from me, and I will
try to accommodate in order to get this done. The customer is looking for
something to show them by the end of July.

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Nicole

On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 7:38 AM, Roger Shuttleworth <shuttie27 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hello Nicola
>
> I can get you part of the way, as you appear to have had no better
> replies. I am working from FrameMaker 11, so if you are using a later
> version things may vary a bit.
>
> First, a DTD should be a plain text file with a .dtd extension. So you
> would need to convert your HTML file to text, losing all the HTML markup.
> When you open the file in a browser, what do you see? You should see text
> that includes things like:
>
> <!ENTITY % task-typemod PUBLIC
>  "-//OASIS//ELEMENTS DITA 1.2 Task//EN"
> "task.mod">
> %task-typemod;
>
> There will be lots of other stuff too, but if you scroll down you should
> see something similar. I'm saying this because I don't know what your HTML
> file will look like. Assuming you do see something similar, you need to
> Select All, Copy, and paste the text into Notepad or equivalent.
>
> Once you have got your DTD into a text file and saved it, you add it to an
> EDD as follows:
>
> 1. Open FrameMaker and ensure you are in the Structured interface.
>
> 2. Click Structure Tools, New EDD. This will create a new EDD file with no
> elements (or only one empty one).
>
> 3. Open Structure View (Structure Tools, Structure View) and delete the
> empty element.
>
> 4. Click at the end of the EDD and go to Structure Tools, Import DTD.
> Navigate to your DTD and click Open. A dialog will ask you which structure
> application you wish to you. For the present, choose No Application, then
> Continue.
>
> 5. In the next dialog, since you are going to create SGML, select SGML and
> click OK. If the error log opens you can probably ignore it for the moment,
> so close it. Your DTD should now be imported into the EDD. There will
> probably be issues that need to be addressed later on, but you're most of
> the way there. Save the EDD with an .edd extension in the appropriate
> app\edd folder.
>
> 6. You now have to add the EDD and the DTD to your structapps.fm file. To
> do this, in FM go to Structure Tools, Edit Application Definitions. This
> opens the structapps.fm file, and you can proceed from there.
>
> A few caveats:
>
> 1. I'm not familiar with the SGML side of FM, so there may be things I'm
> not aware of.
>
> 2. Creating an EDD is far from trivial, as it combines structure
> definitions (from the DTD) with formatting information. If you have never
> created an EDD before you will have a steep learning curve and will need to
> consult other resources.
>
> 3. Similarly, creating the EDD is one step; you also have to create the
> application definition in structapps.fm as indicated above. This is not
> difficult, but would take a long time to explain, so again you need to
> consult other resources.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Roger
>
>
>
>
> On 16/05/2018 22:37, Nicole Rader wrote:
>
>> I have a DTD supplied to me, with a .html file extension. I am trying to
>> associate my structured FrameMaker to use this DTD, so I don't have to
>> create a new EDD. Is there a way I can associate this DTD in order to
>> create a structured book, which will eventually be exported as SGML?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Nicole
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