[Framers] Going bonkers with an x-ref format

tammyvb at spectrumwritingllc.com tammyvb at spectrumwritingllc.com
Wed Mar 14 12:36:25 PDT 2018


Tried that and no go. In frustration, I moved the two auto-numbered tags so
that they were BEFORE the ChapterTitle tag and not after and voila - the
x-refs now work, but this was a Hail Mary and for whatever reason, it
worked. Logically, however, I cannot understand why. I did not think that FM
x-refs were "location-dependent" in that sense. The auto-numbered tags were
explicitly placed in the files, not just listed in the Paragraph catalogue.
For now, I am going w/ this, but if anyone wants to provide an explanation,
I would love to understand.

Old Way:

ChapterNumber
ChapterTitle
FileName_PDF
FileName_OLH
Heading1s
Headings2s
Heading3s

New Way:

FileName_PDF
FileName_OLH
ChapterNumber
ChapterTitle
Heading1s
Headings2s
Heading3s

Tammy Van Boening
Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
www.spectrumwritingllc.com

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Subject: Re: [Framers] Going bonkers with an x-ref format

What if you rename the ChapterTitle tag to something else, such as Heading0?

Years ago I switched from ChapterTitle > Heading1 > Heading2 ... to
Heading1 > Heading2 ... because of some problem with the ChapterTitle tag.

On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 11:14 AM,  <tammyvb at spectrumwritingllc.com> wrote:
> For a current project, I have 30 FM books that are converted to PDFs 
> and then used to create a merged OLH system in ePub. There are links 
> scattered throughout every file in every book that are inter-book 
> links that are converted and maintained in the PDFs.  I have two 
> paragraph tags called FileName_PDF and FileName_OLH. These tags have 
> an autonumber format set to the name of the PDF file and the OLH TOC 
> entry accordingly, for example, Objects. PDF and Objects, and the 
> character tag is set to White.  I place these tags immediately after 
> the ChapterTitle tag on the first page of very chapter/file in a book. 
> Because they are white, the values do not show/are not visible in the
chapter/file.
>
> In the text of files, for an inter-book, x-ref, I use two formats, w/ 
> the format that uses the FileName_PDF conditionalized to Print_Only 
> and the format that uses the FileName_OLH set to OLH_Only. These links 
> are set to the following format:
>
> <Link>"<$paratext>" in <$paranum[FileName_PDF]>.
> <Link>"<$paratext>" in <$paranum[FileName_OLH]>.
>
> That way, in the PDF, the user will see something such as: For more 
> information, see "Blah" in Objects.PDF, while in the OLH, the user 
> will see something such as: For more information, see "Blah" in Objects.
>
> If the x-ref is to a Heading1, Heading2, Heading3, etc. tag, then the 
> text is displayed as expected in the example above; however, if the 
> x-ref is to a ChapterTitle, then I get only this: For more 
> information, see "Blah" in < > and no matter what, the FileName_PDF 
> value or the FileName_OLH value will not populate/be displayed, which 
> makes no sense as these values are indeed in the chapter. I thought it 
> had something to do w/ the fact that I was requesting to link just to 
> paratext and so I even set up a test x-ref format like this:
>
> <Link>Chapter <$chapnum>, "<$paratext>," in <$paranum[FileName_PDF]>, 
> but again, no joy.
>
> I am totally stumped. Why on earth would referencing a ChapterTitle 
> paragraph prevent an autonumber value from being displayed in an 
> x-ref? I must absolutely be able to reference a chapter title in this type
of x-ref.
> Any and all thoughts are sincerely appreciated.
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