[Framers] Compatability with FM11 non-structured files

Mon Feb 11 13:21:35 PST 2019

If you're not active on the Adobe Forums, I can ask there if anyone is
aware of a program that will import Frame binary and convert to a new
format. Do you want me to? And if so, how would you like the information
conveyed?

On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 2:15 PM <john.x.posada at us.hsbc.com> wrote:

> I'd think a vendor would say I'm going to create an application that kicks
> FM's butt and as part of it, can ingest FM files.
>
> What do I know. Thanks everyone
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+john.x.posada=
> us.hsbc.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Scott Prentice
> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 2:12 PM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Compatability with FM11 non-structured files
>
> This isn't an unusual request (to migrate to another tool) .. but
> typically when someone is a "FM user" with FM files, they would have
> FrameMaker available to export to a neutral format.
>
> FM isn't used by enough people to warrant creating a separate application
> for migration.
>
> ...scott
>
>
> On 2/11/19 10:57 AM, John Posada wrote:
> > This conversation has been an eye-opener. I cannot believe that nobody
> > has come along and offered an application for people who are FM users
> > but want to migrate to another vendor for some reason.
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 1:47 PM Peter Gold
> > <peter at petergold.photography>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi, John:
> >>
> >> My point was that if the company was using InDesign, it would have to
> >> be an early-enough standalone version that doesn't phone home to
> >> Adobe. I use ID
> >> CS6 standalone/non-subscription.
> >>
> >> Perhaps the question has evolved to what applications are acceptable
> >> on the corporate network, and which of them do folks on the list
> >> think is the best one to migrate to, so as to avoid having to slog
> >> through this effort going forward?
> >>
> >> Despite its age, FrameMaker is still a great tool for the task of
> >> technical writing and publishing. However, security issues in the
> >> computing environments where it's used have become serious
> >> considerations, so, to wit:, hence, therefore, and etc.....
> >>
> >> On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 12:26 PM <john.x.posada at us.hsbc.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Peter...it's not the process for exporting/converting that's the
> >> issue.
> >>> I got all that. I did it all the time to allow my user base to make
> >>> their edits.
> >>>
> >>> The issue is installing and licensing the application. It WOULD be
> >>> installed on a standalone...mine. It still needs to validate by
> >> connecting
> >>> to Adobe, and that's a problem.
> >>>
> >>> BTW...all Adobe products do that, so bring ID into the equation does
> >>> nothing.
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+john.x.posada=
> >>> us.hsbc.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Peter Gold
> >>> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 1:20 PM
> >>> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. <
> >>> framers at lists.frameusers.com>
> >>> Subject: Re: [Framers] Compatability with FM11 non-structured files
> >>>
> >>> Looks like my earlier response got truncated. Apologies for any
> >> confusion.
> >>> Would it be acceptable to install FM on a stand-alone machine, save
> >>> as MIF, and export/convert to formats of apps the corporate network
> >> supports,
> >>> then copy these outputs to the network? Or, have that work done by a
> >>> service?
> >>>
> >>> If a non-subscription version of InDesign is used on the corporate
> >>> network, a round-about approach could be to use the  DTP Tools - MIF
> >> Filter
> >>> for Adobe InDesign <http://www.dtptools.com/product.asp?id=mfid> to
> >>> convert MIF files InDesign. Within InDesign's own limits and
> >>> abilities,
> >> the
> >>> conversion retains most, FrameMaker text formatting features and
> >>> specifications, and does its best to emulate page layouts.
> >>>
> >>> HTH
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 8:28 AM John Posada <jposada99 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi, guys...I have 5 years of FM files and my company doesn't like
> >>>> FM installed on their network.
> >>>>
> >>>> Are there any other applications that can be installed and open
> >>>> native FM
> >>>> 11 files and retain most of the FM functionality, especially the
> >>>> book paradigm?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> John Posada
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