[Framers] Weird spacing in PDF output

Peter Gold peter at petergold.photography
Fri Sep 25 14:49:39 PDT 2020


Thanks for persevering on this issue, Lin. Good to hear that it's paying
off in Adobe's finally giving what seems serious attention to the kind of
seemingly-trivial problem that's really a serious flaw.

Back in the day, I spent a few weeks tracking-down a consistent product
misbehavior that gave different results when a user created a data query
that applied two sort operations before or after the other. None of the
technical experts who'd developed the product I interviewed, could explain
why the equivalent queries returned different results. I finally uncovered
notes in the SQL industry standards documents that this company's early
design statements acknowledged they would include language extensions known
to allow such non-standard behavior.

There fix in documentation was, "expect different results from such
queries." D'OH! :)

On Fri, Sep 25, 2020, 4:09 PM Lin Sims <ljsims.ml at gmail.com> wrote:

> For those who may (or may not) be interested, I tried creating a PDF from
> the same TOC file after substituting different fonts in. The PDF generated
> from the TOCs using either Open Sans or Calibri were even WORSE than the
> one created using Source Sans Pro. However, the one generated from a TOC
> using ARIAL as the font generated perfectly. It must be some interaction
> between the font and the PDF engine.
>
> I had a coworker try to generate a PDF from the original TOC using the
> Source Sans Pro and he got the same result I did, so it is not just my
> machine having the issue. An Adobe developer contact me today about this
> and requested sample files, which I have sent. Here's hoping someone comes
> up with a clue on what is happening and why!
>
> On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 8:09 AM Lin Sims <ljsims.ml at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > The last time I was successful was August 2019 and I was using FM2019, so
> > yes, that's changed.
> > Acrobat is on subscription, so that's changed.
> > Windows has updated a time or two, so that's changed.
> > This is the only document this is happening in, but it's also the only
> > document using the word "Software" in a heading that's pulled into the
> TOC.
> >
> > There's not a lot I can do about any of those changes, and as long as the
> > tried and true File > Print Book works, I've a viable workaround. It's
> just
> > that it's a long time to process viable workaround.
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 7:14 PM Peter Gold <peter at petergold.photography>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 3:31 PM Lin Sims <ljsims.ml at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Sometimes they do, and they also wander through the Adobe FrameMaker
> >> forum
> >> > from time to time. I might ping Amitoj and ask him to read this thread
> >> and
> >> > the concurrent thread there. Or enter a bug in the tracker, but this
> is
> >> > such an oddball occurrence ...
> >> >
> >> > The really weird thing is that the last time I created a PDF from this
> >> > document was in August 2019, with FM2019, and it worked perfectly with
> >> Save
> >> > As PDF.
> >> >
> >>
> >> I learned from my doctors that if you're having different symptoms after
> >> years on the same doses of the same meds, sometimes the cause is the
> >> body's
> >> changed. So, since the last time you were successful with your same
> >> workflow, has Windows been upgraded or patched, or FM? Or the font? Or
> the
> >> internal FM>PDF stuff? Hey, it's not rocket science, but it is science.
> :)
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