[Framers] Processing time

Harding, Dan dharding at illinois.edu
Wed Apr 7 05:13:08 PDT 2021


Art,

I can't tell if your reply is intended tongue in cheek or not. A core i9 with 64GB of Ram is lightweight? According to CPU & RAM meters, the system isn't even using 27% of RAM when under load running Frame, and of the 20 CPU cores, Frame only utilizes one of them which it pegs to 100%; Frame apparently is not a multithreaded application... so the vast majority of system resources Frame isn't capable of utilizing. It's ancient technology under the hood.

If there is a way to force Frame to utilize more CPU cores to boost performance, I'm all ears. I've not been able to find a solution.
                 
All files are local, not on the network.

To be clear, this is 64-bit Frame I'm running, not 32-bit. 2019 version (15.0.3.603) as I will not shift to the subscription model.

Thanks,

-Dan



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From: Framers <framers-bounces+dharding=illinois.edu at lists.frameusers.com> On Behalf Of Art Campbell
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Processing time

Your machine is kind of light weight for intensive publishing. I'd definitely try to boost the RAM.
Also, you don't say if the files are all local or on a LAN/server somewhere, which will create another bottleneck if they have to be opened locally, which probably involves some virus checking.
May be worth downloading a new version build to see if the 64 bit version gives you any speed.

Art Campbell
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On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 8:42 AM Harding, Dan <dharding at illinois.edu> wrote:

> Actually, 32-bit or 64-bit, regardless of machine specs, FrameMaker is 
> a performance dog. It's horrible... and I say that as someone who 
> loves the software itself... but its resource utilization is GawdAwful(tm).
>
> Not just during rendering phases, but Frame polls all opened 
> pods/dialogs with every keypress, so the more pods you have open 
> whilst editing, the more paragraph and character styles that are 
> defined for the document, the more fonts that are installed on the 
> system, the slower it is to navigate a document with the keyboard. 
> Even with an i9 cpu and 64GB RAM and no other foreground applications 
> running in Win10, I cannot operate with all of the pods open that I 
> typically would want to reference. I have to keep multiple streamlined 
> workspaces defined tailored to specific tasks, as the interface becomes unusable if I try to have everything open.
>
> Compared to InDesign, Photoshop, Illustrator, Frame feels at least an 
> order of magnitude slower. It's like running under water.
>
> -Dan
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Framers 
> <framers-bounces+dharding=illinois.edu at lists.frameusers.com>
> On Behalf Of Pulkit Nagpal
> Sent: Tuesday, April 6, 2021 12:28 AM
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>
> FrameMaker 2017 was on 32 bit architecture and FrameMaker 2019 & 
> FrameMaker 2020 is based on 64bit architecture which by default 
> improves performance of Application .
>
> if you have 64 bit OS, I suggest you to upgrade to latest version or 
> try out the latest version on t 30 days trial, Make sure you have 
> backup of older version files
>
> Thanks
> Pulkit Nagpal
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
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>
> Use the Task Manager's Performance tab to see what the bottleneck is.
> Is CPU, memory, or disk at or close to 100%?
>
> On Mon, Mar 29, 2021 at 8:46 AM Sparky Anderson 
> <dbailey4117 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Whenever I publish to HTML or save to PDF, FrameMaker takes longer 
> > than I'd like.  Waiting on Frame to finish processing is slowing 
> > down my productivity (and trying my patience).
> >
> > What's the best way to tackle this issue?  More RAM?  A faster CPU?
> > Something else?
> >
> > I'm running FM 2017 on the following:
> >
> > 64-bit Windows 10 Pro version 20H2
> > Intel i5-7500 CPU @ 3.40 GHz
> > 16 GB
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