[Framers] [SPAM-heur][SPAM-dkim] Re: Table of Contents issue in FM-generated PDF

Tue Feb 2 12:23:17 PST 2021

OK, I'm not certain I'm following you entirely. When I open my PDF files in
Acrobat and right click on a TOC entry, I am given the option to edit the
link. If I select Edit Link, the Link Properties window is shown. By
default, the Link Type on the Appearance tab is set to Invisible Rectangle.
If you change it to Visible Rectangle, you can see the bounding box, but
that isn't necessary to edit the link.

If you click on Actions, you can delete the current link in the Actions box
and add a different link using the Add an Action, which is what it sounds
like you're trying to do?

On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 3:11 PM Harrington, Matthew (Contractor) <
Matt.Harrington.Contractor at usap.gov> wrote:

> Hi Lin,
>
> Much thanks for the responses.
>
> To your first email, I did go in and look at my TOC.fm file under the
> Format > Document > PDF Setup... dialog box. The settings you mentioned
> were already selected as you described (under the 'Bookmarks' tab vice the
> 'Tags (Distiller)' tab) with those headers already under the "Include
> Paragraphs:" pane and the Generate PDF Bookmarks checked. I believe the
> hierarchy is correct (our layout and naming might look a little odd, but
> they work for our purposes) :
> Heading 1
> Heading 1 Appen
> Heading 1 Desc
> Heading 1 Intro
> Heading 1 Sys
> .Heading 2
> .Heading 2TOC Special
> ..Heading 3
> ...Heading 4
> Etc.
> The PDF bookmarks do work correctly as generated and I am able to add new
> ones, change where they link to within (or outside of the PDF).
>
> In your second email, you are correct, though the trouble I am having in
> the PDF is that unlike the List of Tables, List of Figures, and the Index,
> the TOC does not seem to want to generate the links (as bounding boxes) in
> the first place to the headers in the body. I would have to use the
> crosshair and draw one around every single entry!
>
> Since it works in the other three FM files (LOT, LOF, Index), I was
> thinking something must not be set correctly in my TOC file in FrameMaker.
> However, when I compare the LOT, LOF, and Index against the TOC via Format
> > Document > PDF Setup... dialog box, they all *appear* to be set up the
> same way. For one section in the both the bookmarks and the TOC, the reason
> we need to use the links that are automaticaly generated is to open folders
> just outside of the PDF that contain a bunch of large PDFs so are engineers
> can access supplemental info. Yes, convoluted. :-)
>
> Something must not be set correctly.
>
> Matt
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Framers <framers-bounces+matt.harrington.contractor=
> usap.gov at lists.frameusers.com> On Behalf Of Lin Sims
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> Subject: [SPAM-heur][SPAM-dkim] Re: [Framers] Table of Contents issue in
> FM-generated PDF
>
>
> OK, now I'm not sure I read your email right.
>
> You are generating both PDF bookmarks and hyperlinks for the TOC to the
> headings in the document, correct? And then you want to edit where the
> links from the TOC entries go to in the document using Acrobat Pro even
> though they are already linked to the heading in the document?
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 2:07 PM Harrington, Matthew (Contractor) <
> Matt.Harrington.Contractor at usap.gov> wrote:
>
> > Hi Framers,
> >
> > I'm having a little FrameMaker-generated PDF issue with the table of
> > contents (TOC) and wondered if anyone might know a solution? Maybe
> > this is the way PDFs have always worked when generated from Adobe
> > FrameMaker, but my use of FM is intermittent, so I don't remember. I
> > have been scouring the Internet on and off over several days seeking a
> > solution, but coming up empty.
> >
> > So, an example in contrast first: when I convert a Word document to a
> > PDF using 'Save As PDF', the TOC automatically converts all of its
> > entries into hyperlinks to those headings throughout the document
> > (much as bookmarks generated by FrameMaker do in a PDF). In both Adobe
> > Acrobat Pro DC and in Foxit PhantomPDF I can then go to Edit [PDF] >
> > Link and click the 'Add/Edit Web or Document Link' function, which
> > highlights every entry in the TOC with a nice bounding box. I can then
> > modify where they link by making changes in right-click > Properties.
> >
> > A few months ago I was upgraded from FrameMaker version 12.0.4.445 to
> > FrameMaker version 16.0.0.754 and still running on a Windows 10 laptop
> > in both cases (FM 12 is still on my laptop, but I do not use it). Even
> > under FM 12, I don't believe the generated PDF would let me to do what
> > I described above with its generated PDF opened in Adobe Acrobat.
> > Instead, it seemed like I was only able to do those things with Foxit
> > PhantomPDF. For a large document, containing hundreds of headings this
> is a HUGE timesaver.
> >
> > However, under FM 16, it appears I can't get the TOC bounding boxes
> > even with Foxit PhantomPDF. None of the settings under the 'PDF'
> > option under the FM Publish function jump out as the issue-though I do
> > not know if clicking either "Create Tagged PDF" (section 508 stuff) or
> > "Use Acrobat Distiller for PDF generation" would fix this. Oddly, when
> > I click that 'Edit > Link' function in either Adobe Acrobat Pro DC or
> > in Foxit PhantomPDF, I do get the bounding boxes in my List of
> > Figures, List of Tables, and Index. This makes me inclined to think it
> > may be more of a TOC setting in FrameMaker, but I don't know. Does
> > anyone have any ideas? I'm stumped.
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Matt
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