[Framers] Framers Digest, Vol 184, Issue 1

Mon Jul 5 07:25:18 PDT 2021

Mailman would be a good choice. I managed several listservs for the local
STC chapter using Mailman and had no problems with it. And I see it's still
being developed.

Carol, thank you (and Rick) for managing the listserv for so many years.
It's an invaluable resource to FrameMaker users.

I haven't read all of the threads this week, but it sounds like someone has
volunteered? I hope the FrameMaker community will help keep this list
going. The Adobe FrameMaker forums provide some help, but nothing can
replace the knowledge of veteran users on this list.

Sheila Loring

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>    1. Re:  Can Someone Take the Reins? (Syed Zaeem Hosain)
>    2. Re:  Can Someone Take the Reins? (Carol J. Elkins)
>    3. Re:  Can Someone Take the Reins? (Peter Gold)
>    4. Re:  Can Someone Take the Reins? (Caroline Tabach)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2021 20:11:17 +0000
> From: Syed Zaeem Hosain <Syed.Hosain at aeris.net>
> To: nuhDEEN <generic668 at gmail.com>, An email list for people using
>         Adobe FrameMaker software. <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Can Someone Take the Reins?
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> Not sure if Reddit is the right place. It can be quite out of control with
> its tons of random posts on all kinds of topics.
>
> A _far_ better site is groups.io ... I use it for a few email discussion
> groups that I administer. And it would work for this mailing list perfectly!
>
> Z
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Framers <framers-bounces+syed.hosain=aeris.net at lists.frameusers.com>
> On Behalf Of nuhDEEN
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> Subject: Re: [Framers] Can Someone Take the Reins?
>
>  I know that you don't want to lose the archives, but have you folks
> considered moving to a different platform (such as Reddit) so you're less
> reliant on a site owner?
> Nadine
>     On Wednesday, June 30, 2021, 10:02:02 a.m. EDT, rick at rickquatro.com <
> rick at rickquatro.com> wrote:
>
>  Thank you everyone for all of the love and appreciation. In reality,
> Carol has done all of the work and has been a great list mom and friend.
> The Frame community has some great people in it and I enjoy being a part of
> it.
>
> Rick
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2021 15:16:53 -0600
> From: "Carol J. Elkins" <celkins at critterhaven.biz>
> To: <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
> Cc: rick at frameexpert.com
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Can Someone Take the Reins?
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> At 02:11 PM 6/30/2021, Syed Zaeem Hosain wrote:
> >Not sure if Reddit is the right place. It can be quite out of
> >control with its tons of random posts on all kinds of topics.
> >
> >A _far_ better site is groups.io ... I use it for a few email
> >discussion groups that I administer. And it would work for this
> >mailing list perfectly!
>
>
> Ultimately it will be up to whomever takes over the list and whomever
> (if ever) acquires ownership of the list. But IMO, Mailman is one of
> the best platforms to use for a listserv. It controls spam and has
> good access to archives. It is part of the service that the domain
> host provides and it took a great deal of work to get it all set up
> and working smoothly back in 2016 when I worked with Brad to get
> everything moved away from GoDaddy. I personally wouldn't consider
> changing. But let's leave that discussion for another day (hopefully
> far, far in the future).
>
> Thanks everyone for your warm thoughts. It has been a pleasure and
> honor working with this group. A nicer, more thoughtful, and more
> helpful group of people can't be found. I really would like to move
> this conversation off list now. I have made contact with Finite
> Matters and they will try to get Brad to call me back.  I will keep
> everyone posted. And for those kind souls who are willing to take
> over admin duties, I'll contact you all OFF LIST in a week or so and
> we'll figure out the best way forward.
>
> Carol
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2021 17:26:09 -0500
> From: Peter Gold <peter at petergold.photography>
> To: "An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software."
>         <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Can Someone Take the Reins?
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> Before this fades into the mists of history completely off-list, I want to
> say thanks to Carol and Rick, and the many other folks in this FrameMaker
> community for generously contributing to and sharing FM knowledge and lore.
> We're all more productive and enlightened because of each other.
>
> Thank, All!
>
> On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 4:17 PM Carol J. Elkins <celkins at critterhaven.biz>
> wrote:
>
> > At 02:11 PM 6/30/2021, Syed Zaeem Hosain wrote:
> > >Not sure if Reddit is the right place. It can be quite out of
> > >control with its tons of random posts on all kinds of topics.
> > >
> > >A _far_ better site is groups.io ... I use it for a few email
> > >discussion groups that I administer. And it would work for this
> > >mailing list perfectly!
> >
> >
> > Ultimately it will be up to whomever takes over the list and whomever
> > (if ever) acquires ownership of the list. But IMO, Mailman is one of
> > the best platforms to use for a listserv. It controls spam and has
> > good access to archives. It is part of the service that the domain
> > host provides and it took a great deal of work to get it all set up
> > and working smoothly back in 2016 when I worked with Brad to get
> > everything moved away from GoDaddy. I personally wouldn't consider
> > changing. But let's leave that discussion for another day (hopefully
> > far, far in the future).
> >
> > Thanks everyone for your warm thoughts. It has been a pleasure and
> > honor working with this group. A nicer, more thoughtful, and more
> > helpful group of people can't be found. I really would like to move
> > this conversation off list now. I have made contact with Finite
> > Matters and they will try to get Brad to call me back.  I will keep
> > everyone posted. And for those kind souls who are willing to take
> > over admin duties, I'll contact you all OFF LIST in a week or so and
> > we'll figure out the best way forward.
> >
> > Carol
> >
> >
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2021 10:42:02 +0300
> From: Caroline Tabach <caroline.tabach at gmail.com>
> To: "An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software."
>         <framers at lists.frameusers.com>
> Cc: rick at frameexpert.com
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Can Someone Take the Reins?
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> Archives are very useful.
> While I saved answers to questions I asked, since moving jobs a couple of
> times, I don't have easy access.
>
> Searching the archives for my messages has proved very useful.
>
> Caroline Tabach
>
> On Thu, 1 Jul 2021, 00:17 Carol J. Elkins, <celkins at critterhaven.biz>
> wrote:
>
> > At 02:11 PM 6/30/2021, Syed Zaeem Hosain wrote:
> > >Not sure if Reddit is the right place. It can be quite out of
> > >control with its tons of random posts on all kinds of topics.
> > >
> > >A _far_ better site is groups.io ... I use it for a few email
> > >discussion groups that I administer. And it would work for this
> > >mailing list perfectly!
> >
> >
> > Ultimately it will be up to whomever takes over the list and whomever
> > (if ever) acquires ownership of the list. But IMO, Mailman is one of
> > the best platforms to use for a listserv. It controls spam and has
> > good access to archives. It is part of the service that the domain
> > host provides and it took a great deal of work to get it all set up
> > and working smoothly back in 2016 when I worked with Brad to get
> > everything moved away from GoDaddy. I personally wouldn't consider
> > changing. But let's leave that discussion for another day (hopefully
> > far, far in the future).
> >
> > Thanks everyone for your warm thoughts. It has been a pleasure and
> > honor working with this group. A nicer, more thoughtful, and more
> > helpful group of people can't be found. I really would like to move
> > this conversation off list now. I have made contact with Finite
> > Matters and they will try to get Brad to call me back.  I will keep
> > everyone posted. And for those kind souls who are willing to take
> > over admin duties, I'll contact you all OFF LIST in a week or so and
> > we'll figure out the best way forward.
> >
> > Carol
> >
> >
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