[Framers] Help with setting up a paragraph tag in the TOC

Fri Mar 12 18:16:48 PST 2021

Tammy,

I don't remember exactly, but you can make autonumbering remember 
different series of things. There is some variable like SORT A, SORT B 
that makes you able to say something like A:<n> B:<n+>

-Theresa

On 3/12/2021 12:28 PM, tammyvb at spectrumwritingllc.com wrote:
> Hi Peter,
>
> Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately, I am not trying to recalculate
> autonumbering in the generated TOC. I am indeed trying to extract the number
> from the paragraph tag, and I think that is the crux of the matter.
> SectionNumber is an auto-numbered tag used within a chapter file whereas the
> tag that immediately follows, SectionTitle, is not auto-numbered. The
> numbering is not at the file level such as with $Chapnum, so I am probably
> trying to mix apples and oranges (for lack of a better metaphor). . . trying
> to extract a paragraph number from one tag and get it assigned to another
> tag when generating the TOC. I swear I had done this successfully before,
> but for the life of me, I can't figure out how I did it. . . . I have punted
> for now and did a little kludging to the SectionTitle paragraph tag to get
> the number to pop in the TOC.  It isn't elegant, but it works.
>
> Thanks!
>
> TVB
>
> Tammy Van Boening
> Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
> www.spectrumwritingllc.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: Re: [Framers] Help with setting up a paragraph tag in the TOC
>
> Hi, Tammy:
>
> The first thing that comes to my senior FM'ers mind is that your TOC formats
> might be failing because perhaps your scheme is trying to recalculate
> autonumbering in the generated TOC, instead of simply extracting the
> numbering from the chapter file paragraphs.
>
> I've always been a little worse at trying to debug someone else's
> problematic autonumbering, than at debugging my own. That's when I referred
> to various postings and examples. So, I tried a search for "examples of
> framemaker book autonumbering" and found plenty of old familiar stuff. If
> you haven't tried it, see if there are any useful memory triggers in the
> search results.
>
> HTH
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 5:27 PM <tammyvb at spectrumwritingllc.com> wrote:
>
>> OK,
>>
>>
>>
>> Please have pity on my senior mind. It's been sooooooooooooooo long
>> since I have had to set certain formats up from scratch in Framemaker,
>> that I am just going bonkers trying to remember how I did something
>> before. Here's my current conundrum:
>>
>>
>>
>> On the first page of each chapter, I have the following tags:
>>
>> 1.      ChapterNumber, with the numbering set to N:Chapter <$chapnum>. At
>> the book level, I set Chapter Numbering to 1 for the first chapter in
>> the book, and Continue numbering from previous chapter for all
>> subsequent chapters. The tag is set to start at the top of a page.
>> 2.      ChapterTitle, which immediately follows ChapterNumber, and is set
>> to
>> Keep with Previous Paragraph.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> In each of my chapters in a book, I have Sections. The Sections are
>> denoted with a special master page layout that is different from the
>> first page of the chapter. On this page, I use several paragraph tags
>> including the
>> following:
>>
>> 1.      Section Number, with the numbering set to the following: S:Section
>> <n+>. The tag is set to start at the top of a page.
>> 2.      Section Title. This is the tag that immediately follows
>> SectionNumber. This tag is set to keep with the previous paragraph.
>>
>> At the book level, I have paragraph tag numbering to start over for
>> each chapter, so the first time I use SectionNumber in a chapter, it
>> is numbering correctly as Section 1, and then followed by Section 2,
>> etc.
>>
>>
>>
>> For my TOC, I have selected the requisite tags, including ChapterTitle
>> and SectionTitle.
>>
>> 1.      For my ChapterTitleTOC tag, here is the format:  Chapter
>> <$chapnum>:
>> <$paratext>. . . . .<$pagenum> and I get the following output for example:
>> Chapter 1: Wiggle the Widget. . . . . . 17.
>>
>>
>>
>> I need to set up an analogous SectionTitleTOC tag : Section 1: Section
>> Title contents, Section 2: Section Title contents, etc., and I guess I
>> am missing the boat on this one. I can go through all the iterations
>> that I have tried, but no matter what I try, I wind up with the
>> following:
>>
>>
>>
>>                                  Section:  <Section Title>.
>>
>>
>>
>> I cannot get the section number to show up after the word "Section"
>> like I can for ChapterTitle. I am sure it's because the <$chapnum> is
>> a book-level variable vs. paragraph tag numbering for SectionNumber,
>> but I am at a loss to understand any further.  If any of you gurus out
>> there can point me to what I am doing wrong, and provide some insight,
>> I would be most appreciative. I had this working ages ago in another
>> manual, but that manual is no longer in my possession, so I can't
>> refer to it for clarification.
>>
>>
>>
>> TIA,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Tammy Van Boening
>>
>> Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
>>
>> www.spectrumwritingllc.com
>>
>>
>>
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