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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I do not know personally know of any such white papers or “intelligent studies” (whatever that means).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Having said that, what is true is that Acrobat Distiller is basically the very tried and true Adobe PostScript 3 interpreter with a “back end” that outputs PDF instead of a raster for printing. It is the gold standard for production of PDF via distillation of PostScript. It is one of the most stable and reliable pieces of code within Adobe (and perhaps the graphic arts industry). Note that prior to availability of the Adobe PDF Print Engine technology, most all high end prepress systems shipped with a similar “headless” version of Distiller known as “Normalizer.”<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>If a copy of Acrobat Distiller is included with FrameMaker at no extra cost, why in the world would you want to use CloneScript?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> - Dov<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Böðvar Björgvinsson [mailto:bodvar@gmail.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, May 08, 2011 5:19 PM<br><b>To:</b> Dov Isaacs<br><b>Cc:</b> framers@lists.frameusers.com<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: RE(2): FM10 does not output Adobe PDF<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Dov,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>In the PS you touch a rather interesting case: the difference between Acrobat and GhostScript. Do you know of a white paper or any intelligent study on the difference between the two -- and maybe other ps/pdf tools?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks beforehand,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Bodvar Bjorgvinsson<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>2011/5/8 Dov Isaacs <<a href="mailto:isaacs@adobe.com">isaacs@adobe.com</a>><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>What you were told is absolutely incorrect. A “headless” version of Acrobat Distiller does come with FrameMaker 10.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>The only reason you would need a standalone copy of Acrobat would be if you wanted to further manipulate the PDF file (not just view it with Adobe Reader).</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Please, when dealing with any Adobe “support person,” please get the name and/or id of whoever you are talking with as well as the “case number” (if a support case is opened) such that we can appropriately follow-up with them when either improper or unintelligible responses are given to customers. If we don’t know who it is, we can’t correct the problem.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> - Dov</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>PS: You really don’t want GhostScript-based stuff that typically yields problems farther down in your PDF workflow.</span><o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <a href="mailto:framers-bounces@lists.frameusers.com" target="_blank">framers-bounces@lists.frameusers.com</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:framers-bounces@lists.frameusers.com" target="_blank">framers-bounces@lists.frameusers.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b><a href="mailto:grant@hedgewizard.net" target="_blank">grant@hedgewizard.net</a><br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 06, 2011 8:27 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:bruce.macarthur@vsea.com" target="_blank">bruce.macarthur@vsea.com</a><br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com" target="_blank">framers@lists.frameusers.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: FM10 does not output Adobe PDF</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'>FWIW, I was told (and I hope incorrectly) by an Adobe support person that FM10 requires the installation of a stand-alone copy of Acrobat to produce PDFs. So I'm using a 3rd-party app with GhostScript to produce my PDFs rather than sending Adobe more money for something that should have been included in the FM package.<o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'>Grant <o:p></o:p></p><div style='margin-top:3.75pt;margin-bottom:3.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On May 6, 2011 at 9:14 AM <a href="mailto:bruce.macarthur@vsea.com" target="_blank">bruce.macarthur@vsea.com</a> wrote:<br><br><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Hello,</span><br><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>I just loaded FM10 on Windows 7 64. I tried to print to Adobe PDF. I have the request for filename selected, however, it prints, there are no error messages, and I can't find the file. If I save the file as PDF, it saves OK, however, I can't get the bookmarks that way. Can someone tell me if there is a setting that I don't have correct. This worked fine on FM9.</span><br><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Thank You,</span><br><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Bruce</span><br><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Documentation Specialist<br>Varian Semiconductor Equipment Associates<br>4 Stanley Tucker Drive<br>Newburyport, MA 01950<br>Work: 978-463-5011<br>Cell: 978-265-0167<br>Fax: 978-462-6126</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br><br><br>You are currently subscribed to framers as <a href="mailto:bodvar@gmail.com">bodvar@gmail.com</a>.<br><br>Send list messages to <a href="mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com">framers@lists.frameusers.com</a>.<br><br>To unsubscribe send a blank email to<br><a href="mailto:framers-unsubscribe@lists.frameusers.com">framers-unsubscribe@lists.frameusers.com</a><br>or visit <a href="http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com" target="_blank">http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com</a><br><br>Send administrative questions to <a href="mailto:listadmin@frameusers.com">listadmin@frameusers.com</a>. 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