<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif;font-size:10pt">Maker 8 introduced UNICODE, didn't it? Anyway, I found that it was squirly with text lines in graphics. Try to always use text frames instead. I think this even bit me after fully updating.<br><br>HTH cud<br></div></body></html>